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This 1894, 38-55 rifle is for sale at auction presently. It is serial # 877XXX (per auction), so has a DOM of 1918. What are the chances that this gun is original considering the condition of the bluing on the receiver at least? I’m not sure I’ve seen a rifle of this vintage that did not have some sort of flaking etc on the receiver, and most of them have lost a big % of original bluing on the receiver. I am a bit suspicious. I know the pictures are not great, but that is all that auction supplied.Thanks in advance.  Eagle

 

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I can not see anything in the picture that would lead me to believe that it is not what it appears to be.  The “flaking” problem first appears on Model 1894s manufactured just a bit later than this rifle.

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Thanks Bert. Would that be in 1920 or mid 20’s? Eagle

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Eagle said
Thanks Bert. Would that be in 1920 or mid 20’s? Eagle  

Very early 1920s.

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Thanks…and that bluing flaking problem went on until about when? Can I assume that the same thing went on with the 1892’s in the same period of time? Eagle

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The flaking bluing problem went through the early 1930s.  It is found on the lever-action Models 53, 55, 92, and 94.  It is also found on a number of other models.

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Bert H. said
The flaking bluing problem went through the early 1930s.  It is found on the lever-action Models 53, 55, 92, and 94.  It is also found on a number of other models.

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It occurred on some of the bolt action Model 52 and 56/57 receivers during that period also.

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I’ e seen it on a Model 59 22 as well

 

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Include the 1890 model too!

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My 1892 built in 1915 has a bad case of it, maybe it was a bit ahead of it’s time.

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Thanks for the information. On a bit different note, I would like to know when Winchester stopped case coloring the lever, hammer, and butt plate. I read in Bob R’s book that the hammer went to blued verses case in mid/late 1913. Is it fair to assume that the lever and butt plate changed about the same time, and would it have changed on the 1892’s around then also? Thanks, Eagle

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The change from case colored levers, hammers, and butt plates on the Model 1892 and 1894 all took place at the same time, beginning in late 1913, and running through approximately early 1916.

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Thanks for the good info. I wrote it down this time. Eagle

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