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I have a 38-55, according to the serial number, it was made in 1902. The barrel has a 1920s era roll mark. Is it safe to say that the barrel was swapped out at Winchester due to the fact that the barrel and receiver have the WP proof mark?

 

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No, it is not safe to say that it was swapped out by Winchester.  Fake Winchester Proof stamp dies are abundant in the hands of those who illicitly create faked Winchesters.

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Someone could have swapped out the barrel.

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Someone could have swapped out the barrel.

Not “could have”… somebody did swap the barrel.  The question is “who”.

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Bert H. said

Chuck said

Someone could have swapped out the barrel.

Not “could have”… somebody did swap the barrel.  The question is “who”.

Bert

  

Any way to tell for sure one way or another? It has been in my family since around 1946. My Great Uncle bought it when he got out of the Navy. The barrel was changed prior to that. 

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Agent1911 said

Bert H. said

Chuck said

Someone could have swapped out the barrel.

Not “could have”… somebody did swap the barrel.  The question is “who”.

Bert

Any way to tell for sure one way or another? It has been in my family since around 1946. My Great Uncle bought it when he got out of the Navy. The barrel was changed prior to that. 

No, there is not a way to positively determine who swapped the barrel.

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Bert H. said

Agent1911 said

Bert H. said

Chuck said

Someone could have swapped out the barrel.

Not “could have”… somebody did swap the barrel.  The question is “who”.

Bert

Any way to tell for sure one way or another? It has been in my family since around 1946. My Great Uncle bought it when he got out of the Navy. The barrel was changed prior to that. 

No, there is not a way to positively determine who swapped the barrel.

  

Thanks Burt! I presume you mean “No Way.”

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Check the Cody Museum, wouldn’t hurt to see if the rifle can be lettered, might not tell you much more, but if it’s a family heirloom  might be a nice thing to have. Since you did not provide the sn, IDK if it’s letterable.

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To the astute collector it makes little difference who swapped out the barrel unless Cody records indicate it was done at the factory. Even then, many collectors will feel it decreases the value. A rifle that must be explained is hard to sell. OTOH it’s part of your family’s history and that could  outweigh any collector value.

 

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To the astute collector it makes little difference who swapped out the barrel unless Cody records indicate it was done at the factory. Even then, many collectors will feel it decreases the value. 

Unfortunately true, the dogmatic & close-minded “many,” who outnumber those capable of appreciating a gun’s history.

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