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From what I understand, the 18″ carbines are a pretty rare bird. I believe there are only 12 of them in the letterable range. Unfortunately, mine falls well outside that range–serialized in 1922. A nice bonus though, it’s chambered in .25-35 WCF.
To Bert,
You had an in-hand inspection of this carbine at the Oregon Arms Collectors show a few years ago and blessed it as factory original and added it to your survey. I’m just trying to get a feel for how many more 1894 18″ carbines were produced. How many do you have in your survey now? Based on that data, how many do you estimate to be out there?
Don
January 26, 2011
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That’s a great carbine Don.
FYI – Bert is out of pocket for a couple weeks for work. You might want to refresh the post later on. In the meantime, Rick Hill will be able to weigh in if he sees this post.
~Gary~
pdog72 said
That’s a great carbine Don.FYI – Bert is out of pocket for a couple weeks for work. You might want to refresh the post later on. In the meantime, Rick Hill will be able to weigh in if he sees this post.
Thanks Gary. Was wondering where Bert’s been hiding.
I was wondering where he was too. Hopefully he is just working somewhere.
I have been looking to add one of these to My collection for a long time, I know Rick has one, but I am having trouble trying to convince Myself to justify the price, again the Canada _U.S. dollar difference is the main prob lem for Me. Anyway nice gun there deerhunter, I’m envious.
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
Henry Mero said
I have been looking to add one of these to My collection for a long time, I know Rick has one, but I am having trouble trying to convince Myself to justify the price, again the Canada _U.S. dollar difference is the main prob lem for Me. Anyway nice gun there deerhunter, I’m envious.
I believe Rick Hill had an 18″ carbine in one of the big auctions few years ago and this one was lettered as well. Not sure if it sold or not. Anyway, from previous posts it looks like a focal point of your collection is 1894 trappers. This is the only short carbine I have in my collection. It came from a dealer in Arkansas a few years back that didn’t realize what he had and was able to buy it at a very reasonable price. From your perspective and experience, what kind of value would you put on my 18″ .25-35 carbine ( in U.S. dollars)? It’s hard for me to determine value because there are so few of them out there.
Thanks,
Don
tionesta1 said
Don,Very nice carbine.
Al
Thanks Al. It’s not the prettiest 94 in my collection but I think it’s the most rare.
Don
For the past several weeks, I have been sequestered in work locations non-accommodating to outside world communications (underwater). I am currently back home for a few days (but still working 13 – 14 hour days), and then will be out of reach again late this coming week for another few weeks.
In regards to the topic concerning 18-inch Carbine production, I have documented (surveyed) seven of them with serial numbers > 353999, of which three of them are 25-35 WCF. At this point in the survey it is not possible to predict what the total production might have been, but it is most certainly was not a significant number.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
I’m envious of your nice carbine as well, deerhunter, to include, what it might bring on the market today!
James
jwm94 said
I’m envious of your nice carbine as well, deerhunter, to include, what it might bring on the market today!James
Thanks James. Since there are so few of these 18- inchers out there, it’s difficult to determine what it might bring on the market today without throwing it up for auction and I don’t plan on doing that anytime soon. I bought this carbine 5-6 years ago for $4,800 and I think I did ok. Most of my 1894 collection consists of rifles, but only have a few carbines. All the carbines are “special” in some way. Besides this one, I have a 1917 WWI martially marked Spruce gun, a 1928 model 94/95 hybrid carbine, and a 1931 S.F.P.D. marked carbine.
Don
January 26, 2011
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Don
I don’t currently own a single carbine, but if I were to have any, those are some interesting variants I would be proud to own. Great stuff!
~Gary~
deerhunter said
Thanks James. Since there are so few of these 18- inchers out there, it’s difficult to determine what it might bring on the market today without throwing it up for auction and I don’t plan on doing that anytime soon. I bought this carbine 5-6 years ago for $4,800 and I think I did ok. Most of my 1894 collection consists of rifles, but only have a few carbines. All the carbines are “special” in some way. Besides this one, I have a 1917 WWI martially marked Spruce gun, a 1928 model 94/95 hybrid carbine, and a 1931 S.F.P.D. marked carbine.
Don
Don, I don’t blame you for holding on to it!!! You do have some special carbines. I like special features too, but then, who doesn’t?!
Back to trappers. I saw one on GB many years ago…at least a dozen, if not more, but I do not remember the barrel length. It was super nice, too, and from about the same era…maybe as late as sometime in the 30s. It sold for $3400, so you probably did very well!
James
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