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Hi all, a friend of mine passed away about 2 years ago and his brother wants to sell these two rifles. I want to make him an offer that is fair for both of us. I’ve been looking on gunbroker but prices and condition are all over the place. I know it’s tough to give a value looking at only pictures but I’m hoping the members of this forum can get me in the “ballpark”. The 1886 has had its sights replaced and an extra hole in the tang was drilled to do so.
Thank you in advance for any help/advice.
Tom
Hi. I cannot speak for the others, but it would appear that rifle to be worth in excess of $10,000. Beautiful rifle, best of calibers, BUT, the extra hole may be a killer for most collectors. Just my opinion. Big Larry
Very nice! Too bad about the hole/sights.
Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886
Hello Thomas,
The Mode l1892 rifle was manufactured during April of 1928. In this time period about 500 Take down rifles were made and the majority were in 44 WCF caliber. These rifles also used slightly older barrels which had already been stamped with the #3 Style of barrel address stamp located above the fore end cap and the model designation on the left side under the rear sight. The more common barrel had the address on the right side of the barrel under the rear sight. From what I can see the rifle is 100% original and has been well cared for and not abused but with a fair amount of bluing loss on the carry point of the receiver/take down ring. Based on the photos you have posted the rifle would rate in the +/- 70% condition range and be valued around $6000. I suspect the bore would be almost perfect.
The 1886 look in even better condition with screaming exception of the extra hole in the upper tang for the folding peep sight. AAAARGH!!
For some guys that will be deal killer. For others not so much but it will diminish the collectibility of the gun. Some of the serious 86 guys can advise better than me.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Here’s an 86′ that just ended last evening. Not quite as nice but close.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/586184994
A very nice 92′ but not a takedown.
Thank you Mike, Larry and Old-win for your comments and expertise. I saw the results of the Gunbroker auction but what would be a fair price on this 1886 with the extra hole in the tang? The rifle is in beautiful condition and the bores on both are practically new, but that extra hole is the issue. How much does this detract from the overall value?
Thank you all,
Tom
The gunbroker rifle was a 40-82 with round barrel opposed to above’s 45-90 with Octagon barrel both considerable in regard to value.
Personally, the extra hole is a deal breaker for me, however I expect some collectors may pay $10,000>$12,000 for it.
Really nice CCH. Same rifle “all-original” would be worth $15,000>$17,500 in my opinion.
A couple questions for the experts here;
Isn’t the other sight incorrect as well?
And, shouldn’t the muzzle end for this model rifle be blued? Or was it blued at some point?
Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886
Kevin Jones said
A couple questions for the experts here;
Isn’t the other sight incorrect as well?
And, shouldn’t the muzzle end for this model rifle be blued? Or was it blued at some point?
Kevin,
The front sight is a Lyman No. 5B, which could have been special ordered. They are found on a fair number of different Winchester rifles.
Winchester always left the muzzle face in the white (not blued) on all of the octagon barreled rifles.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
Kevin,
The front sight is a Lyman No. 5B, which could have been special ordered. They are found on a fair number of different Winchester rifles.
Winchester always left the muzzle face in the white (not blued) on all of the octagon barreled rifles.
Bert
That’s right SRCs are blued, I had it backwards. Thanks Bert, a lot to remember!!!
Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886
So as I understand the extra tang hole is a $5k ouch.
Also can anyone identify the rear sight? I really appreciate everyone’s information. I wouldn’t know what would be fair without you guys. Thank you all so very much for your time and input.
Tom
Thomas Foster said
So as I understand the extra tang hole is a $5k ouch.Tom
Tom,
The tang sight on your Model 1886 is a Lyman No. 103 Micrometer Windgauge sight. It will have an application code stamped in the steel base (on the underside). Depending on what that application code is, the sight is worth $425 – $650 all by itself.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Thomas Foster said
So as I understand the extra tang hole is a $5k ouch.Tom
Tom,
Yes that extra little hole is a big $$ pit! But, you can always get a correct tang peep for the 1886 which will cover the entire tang and will screw into the small unused screw on the tang and at least you will then never see the blemish! Out of sight…. out of mind?
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
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