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Is my assessment that the butt plate, lever, and hammer have been refinished on this 1892?  Those 3 pieces don’t seem to match the condition of the rest of the gun.  Also, if the lever and hammer are case-colored, then shouldn’t the butt plate be case-colored as well?

https://www.wardscollectibles.com/viewitem.php?item=4010

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Don,

I agree, the hammer and lever look like they were recase color finished, and Yes, the butt plate should also be case color finished.

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Thanks Bert.  It certainly isn’t advertised as such.

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deerhunter said
Is my assessment that the butt plate, lever, and hammer have been refinished on this 1892?  Those 3 pieces don’t seem to match the condition of the rest of the gun.  Also, if the lever and hammer are case-colored, then shouldn’t the butt plate be case-colored as well?

https://www.wardscollectibles.com/viewitem.php?item=4010

Don  

Good morning Don,

I certainly agree that the lever and hammer are redone and the butt plate should be CC also.   If you can get the full SN I would love to add the gun into my research.  So far I have not seen this one based on the bluing pattern on the receiver.

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Remember that this seller is known to sell refinished guns not advertised as such. He knows exactly what he is doing IMO.

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Good morning Don,

I certainly agree that the lever and hammer are redone and the butt plate should be CC also.   If you can get the full SN I would love to add the gun into my research.  So far I have not seen this one based on the bluing pattern on the receiver.

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Hi Michael,

I e-mailed Ward’s Auction for the complete serial number, but here’s the response I got:

 

Hi Don
We do not give out full S/N
What kind of info do you need?

Eric Ward Pres.
Sporting Collectibles by Ward’s Auctions Inc.
1808 37th Ave. NW
Salem, OR 97304
Phone: 503-566-8800
Fax: 503-566-8596
Email: [email protected]
Web site: http://www.wardscollectibles.com

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He’s an idiot. Now send him a copy of this thread. Peter

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Don,

I would ask him why not provide the complete serial number… is he selling stolen guns? I would also tell him very bluntly, that all reputable auction houses list complete serial numbers in their auction listings.

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I went to the Oregon Arms Collectors show today and guess what I saw?  Wards Auction had a display table with this same 1892 sitting on it. I quickly jotted down serial number 656653 and went into hiding.  No alarms, no sirens, no police, and no bouncer to throw me out of the show…Anyway, the lever, hammer, and butt plate are definitely refinished…

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deerhunter said
I went to the Oregon Arms Collectors show today and guess what I saw?  Wards Auction had a display table with this same 1892 sitting on it. I quickly jotted down serial number 656653 and went into hiding.  No alarms, no sirens, no police, and no bouncer to throw me out of the show…Anyway, the lever, hammer, and butt plate are definitely refinished…

Don  

Don,

Oh so sneaky!!  Thanks.

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