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Henry Mero said
Michael, Your Father was a lucky fella to capture a gal from the Amherstburg area. There is a lot of Canada/U.S. history in that area, also French/English/ Indian  history. About 2 hrs. south of Me as the crow flys.  

My dad always thought he chose well!  I have spent a lot of time in the area at relative’s houses when I was a kid.  But since moving to Texas in 1980 it has been a long time since I have ventured across the bridge.  I also have traveled around Arkona and Goderich a bit.  Some day, after Covid, I definitely want to go fly fishing in northern Ontario.  But I also want to do that in MANY other location also.

Michael

Chuck said
Michael, I’ve been thinking about your data.  Off the top of your head, is there anything else that is showing discrepancies from published documents? Madis, Pirkle or others?   

Chuck,

Absolutely!  That was the whole reason I started doing the work.  

Michael

Chuck said

Can we access your work?  

For the rime being shoot me an email and I am more than happy to answer any questions.  I have decided to build a website that will basically be an on line book format with the results of my surveys on the Model 1892 and Model 61 rifles.  In this way I believe I can present more more information in a very usable format.

Michael

Chuck said
OK, I was just interested in special areas where you have found major discrepancies from what Madis or Pirkle have printed.  Like the time frame of the 1st type hammer.  

Chuck,

Right now I am still in northern Michigan and my reference books are in Houston, TX.  So I do not have an easy way to compare one with the other.  I should be home in about a week.  One glaring area that really got me off the mark to do the work was the discussion of tang stamp styles in the work by Madis.  My recall is that he only described 5 different style when in fact there are 8 distinct types found throughout the production run.  A similar discrepancy exits between both authors with regard to the style and various positions/locations of the barrel address stamps and how they are NOT consistent between carbines, round barrel sporting rifles, and octagon barreled sporting rifles.

Michael 

Bert H. said
For those that are interested, all of the same incongruities published by Madis and Pirkle that Michael has discovered with the Model 1892 also exist with the Model 1894.  Thus far, I have documented nearly 24,000 Model 1894/94s and an additional 1,404 Model 55 rifles and 3,159 Model 64 rifles (for a total of 27,933).  Due to the sheer size of the research survey, it is not possible to readily publish the entire document.  Like Michael, I will provide answers to any specific questions from active WACA members.

Bert  

OK, same question.  What are a few of the glaring issues.

Thanks Bert.