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I have a 1886 Saddle Ring Carbine in 50 EXP. It is in a small group of rifles that records are not available for some reason. I believe this is an original 50 EXP from the factory but cannot verify through records. The A after the serial# indicates a magazine change during production. I think that helps?  Any thoughts would be appreciated. I have attached some pics. ThanksIMG_8215.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_8213.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_8212.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_8214.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_8217.jpgImage Enlarger

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Interesting carbine.  The M1886 carbine was standardly produced with a carbine buttstock and carbine buttplate.  I have seen M1886’s with special order rifle buttstocks (and they lettered).  It’s also not uncommon that buttstocks got swapped as a M1886 rifle buttstock will readily fit on a M1886 carbine.  If your carbine is original, I think it would be quite uncommon as I have never seen a rifle buttstock on a .50 Express carbine.  As right as it might appear (e.g. consistent overall condition/wear) you will likely not be able to convince a collector it is original.  Have you taken the buttstock off?  I would be curious if there are any markings on inlet for the upper tang or on the metal on the right inside of the tang.  I’d also take the forearm off to see what markings are on the under side of the barrel.

All M1886’s (carbine or rifles) in .50 caliber took some additional manufacturing steps (e.g. machining of some of the internals of action, as well as the breech end of the barrel) for the big .50 caliber cartridges to cycle through the gun and feed into the chamber.  If I had your carbine, the first thing I would do is check to insure .50-110 cartridges would feed and cycle through the action. 

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It appears to be a correct (legitimate) SRC with a special order “rifle” butt and sling mounts.  Does it properly cycle rounds from the magazine through ejection?

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I have not shot this rifle. Those are very interesting replies. Thanks for the input.

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I’m going to try and get some ammo and see how the 50 110 cycles.

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cobra2858 said
I’m going to try and get some ammo and see how the 50 110 cycles.

  

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Certainly looks like an honest carbine. That doesn’t preclude a stock swap when it was much newer. Probably worth a closer look. 

 

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