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June 15, 2017 - 1:40 pm
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For the learn only…this look real to you?

 

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/656646136

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Nope, Re-colored. Very nice, but it has been redone. The bluing is original however.

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What about the wood Austin?

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how can You tell all that by looking at that picture?   Harry

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To me the colors were suspect because they are dominated by blues and brown tones with the absence of reds and oranges. I am certainly no expert on this, but am aware that reds and oranges come with higher heat and a lot of the refinishers won’t go that high because of the chance of ruining the metal involved. Peter 

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Eagle said
What about the wood Austin?  

The wood is OK, has original finish.

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Even if it is all original (which seems there’s doubts), $40k still seems a bit high in my opinion.

Very nice ’86’ though.

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Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886

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I can’t see reds as they are–color blind.  But I would shy away from a rifle that has those dings and scratches in the stocks but no similar signs of use on the metal.

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Don’t know if it original or not but metal looks re-cased.  I have dealt with CF in the past and found them to be quite reliable in their dealings, though they are on the high priced end.  Last week everything they had was 15% off, which would have included this rifle.  Also, if you buy directly from their website, all purchases over $100 are FREE shipping.

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The seller cleverly states the barrel is 99% original blue but only states the case colors are “fantastic” no mention of originality.

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When I look at a minty case frame 86, the first thing I look at is the screw heads. Original minty screws are gray/silver in color with machine chatter marks similar to milling marks. The crown of the head has many very small flat spots. As the gun is used these flat spots wear off quickly to a smooth, shiny silver look. The original screws were not blue and did not have circular machine marks. I currently have not seen original screws duplicated. Get out the Larry Light and magnifier and look, once you see one, it’s easy to spot. Replaced screws does not necessarily mean the receiver has been recased but original screws unturned means it’s original. T/R

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Those folks have some really nice rifles, actually looking forward to my next trip to Houston. 

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CJS57 said
The seller cleverly states the barrel is 99% original blue but only states the case colors are “fantastic” no mention of originality.  

This is how I knew the colors were not original without even looking at the photos.  Over the years (learning and re-learning caveat emptor) I now have the orientation to read ads very slowly and carefully, scrutinizing every word (or the lack of a word). I’m not saying had the seller written, “original case color,” I would have believed it.  But just his word, “original” present for the description of the blue, but not present for the description of the case color, was like a neon sign for me.  Another example is SODG’s descriptions:  “the box.” 

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