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Actually 2 questions.

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At a gun show this past weekend I picked up a very nice low wall in 25-20 SS. It is a take down model with a #1 octagon barrel. I’ve never had a take down model in an 1885 before and am not sure how to separate it. I thought after sliding the lever forward it might twist apart but the dovetail sections won’t allow it to twist. Tried lightly pulling it straight out but also a no-go. Can someone please instruct me on how this comes apart?

The seller included 2 boxes of Jamison ammo with the rifle but I’ve searched for additional brass with no luck. I would also like to find reloading dies. In the meantime I imagine I can use 25-20 WCF dies to neck size and seat bullets. Yes/No?

Does anyone have any insight on where to find brass and dies?

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dbro said
 I thought after sliding the lever forward it might twist apart but the dovetail sections won’t allow it to twist. Tried lightly pulling it straight out but also a no-go. Can someone please instruct me on how this comes apart?
 

You’re doing the right thing, but it’s merely stuck because it hasn’t been broken down in a long time.  There’s no “dovetail” to it, but interrupted threads on brl. & rcvr.  Apply Kroil to the joint & slider, wait a few days, put some muscle to it, & it will twist off.

Your Jamison brass in the best available; why do you need more? I’ve never had .25-25 SS dies, merely used .25 WCF dies as you suggested; though I think they can be customed ordered from C-H for around $200, if you don’t mind waiting many months to get them.

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dbro said

At a gun show this past weekend I picked up a very nice low wall in 25-20 SS. It is a take down model with a #1 octagon barrel. I’ve never had a take down model in an 1885 before and am not sure how to separate it. I thought after sliding the lever forward it might twist apart but the dovetail sections won’t allow it to twist. Tried lightly pulling it straight out but also a no-go. Can someone please instruct me on how this comes apart?

This might be a silly question, but after sliding the take down button forward, did you open the action and clear the extractor from its nested slot in the barrel breech?

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Not silly at all and no I did not. This is the kind of information I need. Thank you.

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Bert H. said

This might be a silly question, but after sliding the take down button forward, did you open the action and clear the extractor from its nested slot in the barrel breech?

Bert  

It’s a “silly question” the moron at Shilen Brls. should have asked himself before breaking the extractor & breaking a big chip out of the brl. of a bolt action I sent there to be rebarreled. 

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Not silly at all and no I did not. This is the kind of information I need. Thank you.  

I suspected that was the hang-up, and you are welcomeCool

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clarence said

It’s a “silly question” the moron at Shilen Brls. should have asked himself before breaking the extractor & breaking a big chip out of the brl. of a bolt action I sent there to be rebarreled.   

Indeed. I bought a Marlin 1894 in 32WCF at an auction and discovered someone had tried to take it down before opening the action. Although I was able to save the extractor it was a pretty tedious project getting it tuned right. Had to replace the ejector anyway but it was a learning experience. 

Nice looking rifle! How does the bore look?

 

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TXGunNut said

Indeed. I bought a Marlin 1894 in 32WCF at an auction and discovered someone had tried to take it down before opening the action.

A mistake any neophyte might make; but should a neophyte be doing critical work for a famous barrelmaker?  At the time (40 yrs ago), I regarded it as spilt milk that it wouldn’t do any good to cry over, & “let it pass”…& have regretted it ever since.

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