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Hello,

I have two 1873 Winchester 44-40 Rifles.  Serial numbers 139456 and 139475. Both rifles are identical configuration with 24″ round barrels, sling swivels.

Lettered as Rec’d in warehouse 11/21/1883. Shipped 11/27/1883 Order number 9203.

Serial number 139456 has a 44 Cal etched on the Brass carrier/lifter block while 139475 has no marking is that out of the ordinary?? Also, one rifle has what appears to be the original cleaning rod no markings 4 piece with a Brass knob on one end and a patch loop on the other. 

Any thoughts are appreciated, Rifles are pretty much “Brown” Just wondering about the serial numbers being close and sent out on the same order etc.

 

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A lot of water under the bridge in 140 years, I’m sure the rods were either scavenged or discarded due to rattling, they are a nuisance, message me and I’ll dispose of that other set for youWink. I would not be at all surprised if the unmarked lifter wasn’t a years ago replacement.

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Mitchell,

The one without the caliber stamp on the elevator could just be worn off or replaced. Early 44 caliber guns were not caliber marked even after the other calibers came out  but by 150,000 all the 44’s were marked. I would say if the barrel was marked the elevator should of been.

Just consider yourself lucky you got the one cleaning rod set.

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Thanks!  No barrel marking on either gun.  The cleaning rod does rattle a lot I can see why so many were removed!

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Mitchell Reed said
Hello,

I have two 1873 Winchester 44-40 Rifles.  Serial numbers 139456 and 139475. Both rifles are identical configuration with 24″ round barrels, sling swivels.

 

Serial number 139456 has a 44 Cal etched on the Brass carrier/lifter block while 139475 has no marking is that out of the ordinary??

Any thoughts are appreciated, Rifles are pretty much “Brown” Just wondering about the serial numbers being close and sent out on the same order etc.

 

Thanks,

  

 Mitchell,

 I assume you mean stamped not etched.

 When you throw small parts in a bin at a factory they sometimes are not used in the same order. If both elevators are original, it is possible. As long as the guns are in the change over range who cares. T/R

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