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pdog72
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A friend purchased a nice 1873 44-40 w/ a 28″ barrel recently at the Cody show. What type of cleaning rod set would this have had? Would it just have one more section making it a 5 piece set? Are all the rifle rod sections 7″ long?

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Gary,

A 5 piece set would be correct which gets you 34 1/4″. A 4 piece set would be 7″ shorter and would be too short for the 28″ barrel. The basic rods are 7″ but the loop end rod is slightly longer and when the brass end is put on makes that section longer. Carbines had longer rods.

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Thank you, Bob

Do you ever see any 5 rod sets for sale, or will he end up buying two sets to get this accomplished?

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Gary,

They do come up on Ebay occasionally. There is a set on there now but the pictures are not very good and can’t tell for sure if they are original but they look like they were aged. They made perfect repos years ago and the only way you could tell the difference is they were mint. If someone ages them you can’t tell. After seeing them I kind of lost my incentive to put original rods in guns I buy.

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The way to tell if cleaning rods are genuine original Winchesters is to measure the threaded tips of the rods.  Winchesters made them in 9 x 32 and the shaft diameter was .234″ (15/64″).  Replicas use .25″ diameter and #9 machine screws are no longer available.

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Wincacher said
The way to tell if cleaning rods are genuine original Winchesters is to measure the threaded tips of the rods.  Winchesters made them in 9 x 32 and the shaft diameter was .234″ (15/64″).  Replicas use .25″ diameter and #9 machine screws are no longer available.  

Not the repo’s I was seeing, They are exact. Shaft diameter, thread  size and the loop was punched in not milled. You can interchange the rods with real rods and not know the difference. They advertised them in Gun List before the internet took over. The cheap repos are made the wrong size.

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  Buffalo Arms sells 5 piece sets for $55.49. The SKU: WCR050RG are exact in size, dimension, and shape as original. (buffaloarms.com) T/R

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Thanks TR – I will take a look.

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