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1866 Winchester Silver & Engraved
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 At the the Reno show last week a guy had on display a 90%+ 1866 rifle with a silver receiver, buttplate, and forend cap. Not plated, full solid silver (70% silver 30% copper).  Nimshke engraved with rosewood stocks. Perfect sharp engraving. Mint bore. Owner said it appeared unfired. No factory letter is available. He is going to be selling the gun.  What do you think a gun like this would be worth? 

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It is difficult to assess without photographs, but for a ‘ballpark’ figure, you might see what similar items brought at auction recently.  Check out past auction results at James Julia and Rock Island Auction for a start.

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I heard about that 66 last month, the problem is that there is no other sales to compare it to. To reiterate,  It’s not silver plated, the frame, fe cap and buttplate are made out of silver.  I believe one out of 3 or 5 special ordered by the President of a South American country (Bolivia?); not sure one has ever been up for sale before.

Although the CFM has identified one or more 66s made out of silver as part of this special order, from what I understand, that particular 66, so far providence has not been established.

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I would venture to guess possibly $200-300,000 assuming it has iron clad provenance and is original, not repaired/restored. The King of Spain 66 sold recently after auction with an asking price pf $375,000 and it was supposedly the finest 66 ever made.  This gun could certainly rival it if correct. I would like to hear any other info about the gun that anyone has. Thanks,

Casey

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The president of Bolivia in 1868 was Mariano Melgarejo.  Initials M.

The following is from a listing on Guns International:

“The work is a copy of a famous L.D. Nimschke 1866 that was ordered by the president of Peru as a gift to the president of Bolivia. The original was a solid silver action, with the silver coming from the Peruvian silver mines. This work appears on cover and inside of Winchester Engraving. The original gun last sold for in excess of $250,000!”

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Mike Hunter said
I heard about that 66 last month, the problem is that there is no other sales to compare it to. To reiterate,  It’s not silver plated, the frame, fe cap and buttplate are made out of silver.  I believe one out of 3 or 5 special ordered by the President of a South American country (Bolivia?); not sure one has ever been up for sale before.

Although the CFM has identified one or more 66s made out of silver as part of this special order, from what I understand, that particular 66, so far providence has not been established.  

Hi Mike it has been established now,You and I talked awhile back about  an 86 ,Call me sometime Steve 775-287-1781

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nanzca said
I would venture to guess possibly $200-300,000 assuming it has iron clad provenance and is original, not repaired/restored. The King of Spain 66 sold recently after auction with an asking price pf $375,000 and it was supposedly the finest 66 ever made.  This gun could certainly rival it if correct. I would like to hear any other info about the gun that anyone has. Thanks,

Casey  

nanzca said
I would venture to guess possibly $200-300,000 assuming it has iron clad provenance and is original, not repaired/restored. The King of Spain 66 sold recently after auction with an asking price pf $375,000 and it was supposedly the finest 66 ever made.  This gun could certainly rival it if correct. I would like to hear any other info about the gun that anyone has. Thanks,

Hi Casey I have info on the Silver 66,Steve 775-287-1781


Mike Hunter said

I heard about that 66 last month, the problem is that there is no other sales to compare it to. To reiterate,  It’s not silver plated, the frame, fe cap and buttplate are made out of silver.  I believe one out of 3 or 5 special ordered by the President of a South American country (Bolivia?); not sure one has ever been up for sale before.

Although the CFM has identified one or more 66s made out of silver as part of this special order, from what I understand, that particular 66, so far providence has not been established.  

Hi Mike it has been established now,You and I talked awhile back about  an 86 ,Call me sometime Steve 775-287-1781

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Steve Winters said

Hi Mike it has been established now,You and I talked awhile back about  an 86 ,Call me sometime Steve 775-287-1781  

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The president of Bolivia in 1868 was Mariano Melgarejo.  Initials M.

The following is from a listing on Guns International:

“The work is a copy of a famous L.D. Nimschke 1866 that was ordered by the president of Peru as a gift to the president of Bolivia. The original was a solid silver action, with the silver coming from the Peruvian silver mines. This work appears on cover and inside of Winchester Engraving. The original gun last sold for in excess of $250,000!”  

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Too bad my wife and I celebrated our 25th anniversary over a decade ago.  Would be a perfect gift (and a sure-fire-around-the-corner method of bringing that rifle into the house.)  Oh, and her first initial is “M” so I have that going for me too.  Only trouble is, she doesn’t–has never understood–the answers to her simple question, “Why do you need more guns?!”  Before we married I thought she knew the answer; the first real present I bought her was a new .22 rifle.  Go figure!

(Lately, some of my responses have been a bit off the beam.  After this one, I’ll try to curb the clown.)

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