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If anyone has an 1892 takedown rifle they would like to add to my 1892 Takedown Rifle Survey it would be greatly appreciated.  If so, the following information is requested:

  • Serial number (full number please. Partial numbers are of no use because if you have one rifle with x’ed out serial numbers I may have a similar rifle with same serial number (full or partial) that could be the same gun, or a different gun.  Partial serial numbers just dont work). 
  • Caliber
  • Barrel shape (oct, 1/2 oct, round)
  • Barrel length (from face of breech to muzzle)
  • If short rifle, does it have 8 3/8″ forearm or 9 3/8″ forearm
  • Factory matted barrel (Yes/No)
  • Magazine length (Full mag, 2/3 mag, 1/2 mag)
  • Buttstock type (crescent, shotgun, swiss, other)
  • If shotgun butt, what type of buttplate (hard rubber, smooth steel, checked steel, serrated steel)
  • Magazine tube length (full mag, 2/3 mag, 1/2 mag)
  • Whether it is a deluxe (with or w/o pistol grip) checked style (H style, I style, unchecked, or other)
  • Wood grade (plain, X, XX, XXX, etc)
  • Fancy wood on forearm only
  • If letters with special order sights (what types are they)
  • Sling eyes (Yes/No)
  • Set trigger (Yes/No)
  • Engraved (which pattern) or inscribed
  • If letter states it was converted from a standard rifle or carbine into a takedown rifle.
  • Maxim silencer (Yes/No)
  • Any additional factory letter information that may be pertinent
  • Many of these rifles have been altered over the years, if an alteration has been made (cut barrel, reblued, chromed, embellished, drilled/tapped, barrel relined, rechambered, etc.) whatever the case may be, please indicate. 

You can post your information here or send via email to [email protected].

Thank you in advance for any information you can provide. 

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I want to thank those of you who have sent me information on your takedown rifles.  If you have tried sending me a PM and have had no reply, I can not access my inbox to view the messages received.  The best way to send info is through my email address:  [email protected]

Thanks,

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1892takedown said

If anyone has an 1892 takedown rifle they would like to add to my 1892 Takedown Rifle Survey it would be greatly appreciated.  If so, the following information is requested:

  • Serial number (full number please. Partial numbers are of no use because if you have one rifle with x’ed out serial numbers I may have a similar rifle with same serial number (full or partial) that could be the same gun, or a different gun.  Partial serial numbers just dont work). 
  • Caliber
  • Barrel shape (oct, 1/2 oct, round)
  • Barrel length (from face of breech to muzzle)
  • If short rifle, does it have 8 3/8″ forearm or 9 3/8″ forearm
  • Factory matted barrel (Yes/No)
  • Magazine length (Full mag, 2/3 mag, 1/2 mag)
  • Buttstock type (crescent, shotgun, swiss, other)
  • If shotgun butt, what type of buttplate (hard rubber, smooth steel, checked steel, serrated steel)
  • Magazine tube length (full mag, 2/3 mag, 1/2 mag)
  • Whether it is a deluxe (with or w/o pistol grip) checked style (H style, I style, unchecked, or other)
  • Wood grade (plain, X, XX, XXX, etc)
  • Fancy wood on forearm only
  • If letters with special order sights (what types are they)
  • Sling eyes (Yes/No)
  • Set trigger (Yes/No)
  • Engraved (which pattern) or inscribed
  • If letter states it was converted from a standard rifle or carbine into a takedown rifle.
  • Maxim silencer (Yes/No)
  • Any additional factory letter information that may be pertinent
  • Many of these rifles have been altered over the years, if an alteration has been made (cut barrel, reblued, chromed, embellished, drilled/tapped, barrel relined, rechambered, etc.) whatever the case may be, please indicate. 

You can post your information here or send via email to [email protected].

Thank you in advance for any information you can provide. 

Chris

Chris,

I’m not sure if you have my rifle in your survey or not but here’s what I got:

Model 1892

serial number:37362

caliber: 44

barrel: Octagon, 24″, full magazine

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crescent butt

rod in butt

Lyman combination front and rear sights

Letter states:

Serial Number applied November 26, 1894

Type: Rifle

Caliber:44

Barrel Type: Octagon

Trigger: Plain

Sights: Lyman combination front and rear

Takedown

Rod in Butt

Received in warehouse on May 06, 1895

Shipped from Warehouse on June 04, 1895, Order number 13028

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Thank you Bert!  If the barrel was cut I might call it “Lucky” Laugh

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Chris,

Just in case you did not see this – http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=503558395

A friend of mine just bought it.  It is interesting because it has a Nickel Steel barrel.

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Thank you Bert for forwarding.  I missed it, been busy the last few weeks and havent been able to hit the auction sites.  It is interesting that it has the nickel steel barrel, I dont think Ive come across one of them before on the TD’s.  Nice looking rifle.  Surprisingly there arent many in that configuration that Ive come across (RB, 1/2 mag, CB).  Of the 24 having that configuration in the survey (all calibers), this one is the 4th in 25-20 (32=12, 38=2, 44=6). 

Thanks again,

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Thank you Bert!  Had a few of them but not all.  I havent been browsing the net lately, its greatly appreciated.  You hit all the auction sites on your surveys already, have to return the favor with some good intel from the Tulsa show. 

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Chris,

You are quite welcome… I am particularly interested in the later lever-action models (e.g. 53, 55, 64, 65, and 71).

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For your 1892 take down survey.  I saw this one on gunbroker.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=518890475

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Thank you Al.  Thats a nice one for sure, and rare at that having the inclusion of the set trigger.

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Thank you Bert.  Sending you some Model 71 info shortly. 

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Have you seen this 92?

Listed on auction arms: #14015893

92 T/D #927360

20″ nickel steel with 53 type front sight

sling eyes

53 type butt plate

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Roger,

Thats an interesting TD rifle, I have to say I havent seen one like that before.  Aside from the “Model 92″ stamp on the barrel everything else screams Model 53 with the exception of the 20” barrel described and the Model 92 stamp on the barrel.  I was reading through the Madis book and he mentions “Some transitional arms having receivers or barrels of the model 1892, were assembled early in production.  A few guns were produced which are actually a model 53 or 65 with the designation on the barrel reading “Model 92”.  In my mind this could be one such gun.  Its a first for me, others may be able to chime in to provide additional info or their thoughts. 

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I would tend to agree with Chris that it certainly has more characteristics of a Model 53.  That said, I have 17 rifles  in my survey between SN 927085 and 927573 and with the exception of one SRC they are all TD FM sporting rifles with either round or octagon barrels.  All, except one are either 25-20 or 32 WCF caliber.  It would be interesting to see what Kirks Model 53 survey info has for those rifles.  The barrel on the rifle in question does not near the poor condition of the receiver so I would vote it is really a Model 53 with a late replaced barrel.

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Michael is right, there are quite a few TD rifles in the 927000 to 927500 SN range, as stated above they are indeed all small calibers having either round or octagon barrels, not a short lightweight barrel- Model 53 style barrel.  Taking an overall look at the rifle the wood appears to match (forearm and buttstock) and the receiver does show some pitting and is in lesser condition than the barrel in some of the pics.  There are a few barrel pics that show some pitting and general loss of blue from the forearm out to the end of the barrel.  Hard call to make without seeing it in hand. 

Another item that is fairly odd is the longer magazine tube length if following the Model 53 pattern–I could be wrong but I thought most Model 53 TD rifles had a 1/2 magazine length.  I have emailed the seller to confirm that it is 20″ barrel and not 22″ (I noticed he didnt get the SN right so I though maybe the 20″ barrel length was in error).  Shorter than standard barrels on TD rifles are rare and make up only a small percentage of TD rifles surveyed, but again, this isnt the typical 92 TD barrel.  The barrel markings appear to follow the pattern for the Model 53.  Curious what the upper tang marking looks like. 

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Chris,

The upper tang stamp would be interesting to see.  Model 92 rifles at this time have the Type 5 style as shown.

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I sent the seller a message asking about the upper tang stamp and I also wanted to see how/if the TD lever was stamped.  Maybe he will reply.

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