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March 22, 2020 - 1:49 am
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Anyone know if there’s a trapper survey?

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Anyone know if there’s a trapper survey?

AG  

Which specific model? 

I have a survey for the Model 1894 Trapper Carbines, Michael has a survey for the Model 1892s that includes the Trapper Carbines, and I suspect that Bob’s survey of the Model 1873 includes the Trapper Carbines.

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Looking for any numbers Bert on the 1894 or 1892 trappers.

Thanks

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Per the ARMAX survey (of 1995), there were (409) Model 1894 Trapper Carbines manufactured that can be lettered as follows;

Serial numbers 1 – 353999 75,075 Total Carbines 409 Total Trappers  
Barrel Lengths Qty. Made % % of Total
14″ 19 4.65% 0.0253%
15″ 272 66.50% 0.3623%
16″ 104 25.43% 0.1385%
17″ 2 0.49% 0.0027%
18″ 12 2.93% 0.0160%
Total 409 100% 0.5448%

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Per my research survey covering serial number 354000 – 1095364 (the end of the year 1934), I have thus far confirmed the following numbers;

> 353999      
Lengths Surveyed % % of Total
14″ 22 5.56% 0.0693%
15″ 332 83.84% 1.0456%
16″ 35 8.84% 0.1102%
17″ 0 0.00% 0.0000%
18″ 7 1.77% 0.0220%
Total 396 100% 1.2472%

The total numbers look are shown in the table below.  Keep in mind that these are not the “final” production numbers.  I suspect that at least 1,500 were manufactured after serial number 353999.

Serial numbers 1 – 1095364    
Lengths Qty Verified %
14″ 41 5.09%
15″ 604 75.03%
16″ 139 17.27%
17″ 2 0.25%
18″ 19 2.36%
Total 805 100%

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Thank you Bert. Once again appreciated.

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Bert H. said

Which specific model? 

I have a survey for the Model 1894 Trapper Carbines, Michael has a survey for the Model 1892s that includes the Trapper Carbines, and I suspect that Bob’s survey of the Model 1873 includes the Trapper Carbines.

Bert  

I have a “Trapper” is you’d be interested in the info.  It’s ATF lettered but the letter has a small error.

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I have a “Trapper” is you’d be interested in the info.  It’s ATF lettered but the letter has a small error.  

Please elaborate… and start with the serial number, caliber and barrel length.

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Winchester,  1894, 923000.  (1923) …Barrel length 15 1/8″ though ATF stated in their letter it was 14 1/4″.  May have been a new person doing the measuring.  It’s a saddle ring though no sign of a ring ever having been on the gun…(No tell tail shadow in the bluing where the ring would have worn.)  It’s not listed in the latest edition of the AFT Firearms Curios and Relics book.  It’s definitely seen better days.  It was a working gun.

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Caliber is 30 WCF

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Tyke said
Caliber is 30 WCF  

Thanks for the update.

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