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April 15, 2005
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AG said
Anyone know if there’s a trapper survey?AG
Which specific model?
I have a survey for the Model 1894 Trapper Carbines, Michael has a survey for the Model 1892s that includes the Trapper Carbines, and I suspect that Bob’s survey of the Model 1873 includes the Trapper Carbines.
Bert
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Looking for any numbers Bert on the 1894 or 1892 trappers.
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Per the ARMAX survey (of 1995), there were (409) Model 1894 Trapper Carbines manufactured that can be lettered as follows;
| Serial numbers 1 – 353999 | 75,075 Total Carbines | 409 Total Trappers | |
| Barrel Lengths | Qty. Made | % | % of Total |
| 14″ | 19 | 4.65% | 0.0253% |
| 15″ | 272 | 66.50% | 0.3623% |
| 16″ | 104 | 25.43% | 0.1385% |
| 17″ | 2 | 0.49% | 0.0027% |
| 18″ | 12 | 2.93% | 0.0160% |
| Total | 409 | 100% | 0.5448% |
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Per my research survey covering serial number 354000 – 1095364 (the end of the year 1934), I have thus far confirmed the following numbers;
| > 353999 | |||
| Lengths | Surveyed | % | % of Total |
| 14″ | 22 | 5.56% | 0.0693% |
| 15″ | 332 | 83.84% | 1.0456% |
| 16″ | 35 | 8.84% | 0.1102% |
| 17″ | 0 | 0.00% | 0.0000% |
| 18″ | 7 | 1.77% | 0.0220% |
| Total | 396 | 100% | 1.2472% |
The total numbers look are shown in the table below. Keep in mind that these are not the “final” production numbers. I suspect that at least 1,500 were manufactured after serial number 353999.
| Serial numbers 1 – 1095364 | ||
| Lengths | Qty Verified | % |
| 14″ | 41 | 5.09% |
| 15″ | 604 | 75.03% |
| 16″ | 139 | 17.27% |
| 17″ | 2 | 0.25% |
| 18″ | 19 | 2.36% |
| Total | 805 | 100% |
Bert
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March 31, 2020
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Bert H. said
Which specific model?
I have a survey for the Model 1894 Trapper Carbines, Michael has a survey for the Model 1892s that includes the Trapper Carbines, and I suspect that Bob’s survey of the Model 1873 includes the Trapper Carbines.
Bert
I have a “Trapper” is you’d be interested in the info. It’s ATF lettered but the letter has a small error.
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Tyke said
I have a “Trapper” is you’d be interested in the info. It’s ATF lettered but the letter has a small error.
Please elaborate… and start with the serial number, caliber and barrel length.
Bert
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March 31, 2020
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Winchester, 1894, 923000. (1923) …Barrel length 15 1/8″ though ATF stated in their letter it was 14 1/4″. May have been a new person doing the measuring. It’s a saddle ring though no sign of a ring ever having been on the gun…(No tell tail shadow in the bluing where the ring would have worn.) It’s not listed in the latest edition of the AFT Firearms Curios and Relics book. It’s definitely seen better days. It was a working gun.
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