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Question of Model 94 25-35 caliber markings.
February 10, 2017
6:11 am
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Bert;

      In another post you stated the a batch of 25-35 WCF markings were made at the very tail end of that caliber marking. Have you seen or heard of any factory correspondence that explained the reason for jumping from 25-35 WCF to 25-35 Win to 25-35 WCF then back to 25-35 Win. I have S/N 1601244 marked 25-35 Win, S/N 1640125 marked 25-35 WCF and S/N 1919395 marked 25-35 Win. Seems strange that they would jump around like that. JUST  CURIOUS.  

        RR

February 10, 2017
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Bert;

      In another post you stated the a batch of 25-35 WCF markings were made at the very tail end of that caliber marking. Have you seen or heard of any factory correspondence that explained the reason for jumping from 25-35 WCF to 25-35 Win to 25-35 WCF then back to 25-35 Win. I have S/N 1601244 marked 25-35 Win, S/N 1640125 marked 25-35 WCF and S/N 1919395 marked 25-35 Win. Seems strange that they would jump around like that. JUST  CURIOUS.  

        RR  

Winchester did not skip back-and-forth with the caliber marking.  Serial number 1601244 was manufactured too early for it to have a "25-35 WIN." marked barrel.  I suspect that it does not have its original barrel.  I suggest pulling the magazine and forend stock and checking the barrel date.

The other two that you have are correctly marked based on the serial numbers.  Can you tell me if serial 1919395 is drilled & tapped fro a receiver mounted peep sight?  It was manufactured during the transition period in late 1952.  Have you checked the barrel date on this gun?

 

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February 11, 2017
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Bert H. said

Winchester did not skip back-and-forth with the caliber marking.  Serial number 1601244 was manufactured too early for it to have a "25-35 WIN." marked barrel.  I suspect that it does not have its original barrel.  I suggest pulling the magazine and forend stock and checking the barrel date.

The other two that you have are correctly marked based on the serial numbers.  Can you tell me if serial 1919395 is drilled & tapped fro a receiver mounted peep sight?  It was manufactured during the transition period in late 1952.  Have you checked the barrel date on this gun?

 

Bert  

   Bert;  S/N 1919395 is drilled and tapped. Yes I have checked the barrel date. It is marked 25-35  52.

   Now to the other 25-35 S/N 1601244. I have not checked the barrel date. This carbine looks mint no evidence of any refurbish or reblue. I am the third owner so who knows. This was the gun that I posted of the forum sometime back. The story goes that it was purchased by a gentleman - new in 1949. Shot it 4 times, had swivels put on it and never shot it again ( you know how stories go ) but in my limited knowledge it looks right. I have a very nice stock that I debated on replaceing the stock and removing the magazine swivel but was afraid that I would mess it up. So now I have a reason to take it apart and check the barrel date. SOMEDAY. If I don't do it before the Cody Show I will bring it along for you to look at.

Thanks for your response.       RR

February 18, 2017
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Bert H. said

Winchester did not skip back-and-forth with the caliber marking.  Serial number 1601244 was manufactured too early for it to have a "25-35 WIN." marked barrel.  I suspect that it does not have its original barrel.  I suggest pulling the magazine and forend stock and checking the barrel date.

The other two that you have are correctly marked based on the serial numbers.  Can you tell me if serial 1919395 is drilled & tapped fro a receiver mounted peep sight?  It was manufactured during the transition period in late 1952.  Have you checked the barrel date on this gun?

 

Bert  

Bert;

      Curiosity got the best of me so I pulled the forearm and magazine tube. The barrel is marked 25-35  50. Not sure what went on here - there is no indication of any work done on this carbine. No extra proof marks. No tool marks on the barrel. One thing for sure the original owner did not buy it in 1949. 

      I have a friend that has a Winchester Model 70 (300 H&H) with a 1955 S/N and a 1956 barrel -  this rifle was bought new by him in 1956. He still has the original box and paperwork. More questions. 

      Thanks for your work in this area.        Dick

February 18, 2017
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Dick,

There is a reasonably good possibility that the receiver on your Carbine did not get used to assemble the gun until late 1950. That would explain why a 1949 serial numbered receiver has a slightly later dated barrel on it. In my survey, the first batch of Carbines marked "25-35 WIN." were all in the 1678000 range.

1678015
1678080
1678267
1678505
1678895
1679429
1679772

Thanks for taking a look at the barrel date.

Bert

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