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June 26, 2013
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Hey Michael / twobit,
Was wondering if you have this one in your survey. Let me know if you need any additional photos.
Don
March 20, 2009
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Very nice looking Don! That is a new addition to my data. Thanks so much. A nice late rifle with the rear sight positioned an further from the receiver than early carbines. That way buckhorn style sights could be used.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
June 26, 2013
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Thanks Michael, glad to add another to your survey. Thanks for pointing out the rear sight location change. I didn’t notice that until you mentioned it.
Don
March 20, 2009
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The new rear sight location began to appear on rifles manufactured (receivers serialized) in mid 1926.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
June 26, 2013
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twobit said
The new rear sight location began to appear on rifles manufactured (receivers serialized) in mid 1926.Michael
Good to know–thanks Michael. Learned something new today. Wondering if the rear sight dovetail moved on any other models during this timeframe, such as the model 94. Or was this change made solely on the model 92?
Don
April 15, 2005
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deerhunter said
twobit said
The new rear sight location began to appear on rifles manufactured (receivers serialized) in mid 1926.
Michael
Good to know–thanks Michael. Learned something new today. Wondering if the rear sight dovetail moved on any other models during this timeframe, such as the model 94. Or was this change made solely on the model 92?
Don
Don,
The rear sight dovetail on the Model 94 was moved forward after 1942 when the No. 22-G with a 3C elevator was changed to using a 1C elevator.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
June 26, 2013
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Bert H. said
deerhunter said
twobit said
The new rear sight location began to appear on rifles manufactured (receivers serialized) in mid 1926.
Michael
Good to know–thanks Michael. Learned something new today. Wondering if the rear sight dovetail moved on any other models during this timeframe, such as the model 94. Or was this change made solely on the model 92?
Don
Don,
The rear sight dovetail on the Model 94 was moved forward after 1942 when the No. 22-G with a 3C elevator was changed to using a 1C elevator.
Bert
Thanks Bert for the clarification.
Don
March 20, 2009
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Good morning,
I am surprised that there was a 16 year differential between the two models!
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
April 15, 2005
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twobit said
Good morning,I am surprised that there was a 16 year differential between the two models!
Michael
Winchester installed the No. 44A Carbine ladder sight as the standard item up through early 1932 then switched to using the No. 22-G as the standard rear sight (coincident with the change from Nickel Steel to Proof Steel). From 1932 through 1942, Winchester used the 3C elevator with the 22-G (due to the position of the rear sight dovetail slot). When production of the Model 94 was resumed post-WW II, the dovetail slot was moved forward to accommodate the 1C elevator.
Bert
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June 26, 2013
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Thanks for the detailed timeline Bert. I just have one exception below from 1916–must have been a special order?? Sort of a carbine in a rifle configuration.
Don
April 15, 2005
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Don,
Yes, that is a special ordered “Eastern” Carbine. When a Rifle butt was ordered, a “rifle” sight was often included. The rear sight on your Eastern Carbine is a No. 26 “California Buckhorn”.
I looked at my survey and found (69) Eastern Carbines that were factory fitted with rifle buttstocks.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
