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U.S. and State Orders for Model 94 Carbines During WW2
April 1, 2018
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Some time ago I downloaded from a forum, a letter written in September 2010 by Herbert Houze, which detailed some orders from the U.S. Government and some States to Winchester in WW2. My main interest is in British military small arms including those supplied by the U.S.A to Great Britain in both World Wars, but I am sure the following will be of interest to those that collect U.S. military small arms.

 

State of Maine: January 23rd 1942 X50 @ $24.06 each. .30WCF 20 inch barrel.

 

Kansas Ordnance Depot: January 5th 1942 X8 @ $24.06 each.

 

U.S. Department of the Interior: January 20th 1942 X65 @ $24.06

 

U.S. Department of Justice: January 26 1942 X16 @ $24.06.

 

Defense Plant Corporation, Las Vegas, Nevada: March 16th 1942 X100 @ $24.06

 

State of Minnesota: April 10th 1942: X200 @ 24.06

 

U.S. Bureau of Reclamation: April 24th 1942 X2 @ 24.56.

 

U.S. Bureau of Government Requirements: April 18th 1942 X12,000 @ $23.50 and X3,000 $23.50 being G94423C .32 Winchester 20 inch barrel.

 

Total 15,441.

 

Mr Houze goes on to say that a total of 27,639 Model 94 carbines were supplied to the Allies, the way the letter is written it implies that the 15,441 U.S. guns are included in this total, but this may not be the case.

 

 

This information is taken from the McCracken Research Archive MS 20 2/52. Although I spent four days in the McCracken Library a few years ago I dont think I read this file.

Is anyone visiting Cody soon who could access this file, I would like to know if there is a breakdown of the non U.S. Government orders supplied to the Allies in WW2. Thanks.

 

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April 1, 2018
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Alan,

I would very much appreciate getting a copy of that letter from you.

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Bert

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April 2, 2018
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E-mail on the way!

Last night I got onto the index of records for Winchester held in the McCracken Library and the Series 2  Box 52 does not exist. Series 2 being World War 2, which undoubtedly is where this info is stored. Its a bit of a puzzle.

 

I am keen to see the distribution of the 12,198 Model 94's that when to the Allies. I know that the Netherlands Purchasing Commission purchased some for use in the Dutch East Indies, but these were purchased from distributors rather than from the factory, as far as I know.

 

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Alan

April 2, 2018
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Alan,

For the benefit of everyone who may be following this topic, the only confirmed Model 94 30 WCF Carbines I have found (records in my research survey) that are tied to WW II use are the 2,500 that were sold to the Canadian government for issue to the British Columbia PCMR. Thus far, I have survey (508) PCMR Winchesters. I have not found a single Model 94 that was manufactured in 1942 (or anytime during WW II for that matter) that has "U S" markings on it.

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New member here. I apologize if this is the wrong place for this information. The topic caught my attention. Recently, I purchased a Winchester 94 Carbine manufactured in 1941 from a local estate sale. The man told me it belonged to his father who was a Major in the U.S. Army. He was in the Transportation Core stationed at the Pentagon from 1941 to 1945. These rifles were in racks in the Pentagon and available for the officers to check out if they wanted to go deer hunting in nearby Maryland. On the butt of the stock is a small brass plate with "USAAF" (U.S. Army Air Force) on it and additional information I do not know the meaning of, as I have not been in the military. I have pics if anyone is interested. I am also trying to figure out exactly what the other information on the plate means. It shoots very well with a very good bore. Outside is clean, maybe 80% condition. Serial #1283998.

December 12, 2018
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rugerone2001@yahoo.com said
New member here. I apologize if this is the wrong place for this information. The topic caught my attention. Recently, I purchased a Winchester 94 Carbine manufactured in 1941 from a local estate sale. The man told me it belonged to his father who was a Major in the U.S. Army. He was in the Transportation Core stationed at the Pentagon from 1941 to 1945. These rifles were in racks in the Pentagon and available for the officers to check out if they wanted to go deer hunting in nearby Maryland. On the butt of the stock is a small brass plate with "USAAF" (U.S. Army Air Force) on it and additional information I do not know the meaning of, as I have not been in the military. I have pics if anyone is interested. I am also trying to figure out exactly what the other information on the plate means. It shoots very well with a very good bore. Outside is clean, maybe 80% condition. Serial #1283998.  

The serial number identifies it as a June, 1941 production Carbine.  You did not mention which caliber it is (e.g. 30 WCF or 32 WS).  Please send the pictures of the brass plate & markings to me at Win1885@msn.com

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