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Authenticating and valuing Winchester Model 1897 WW1 trench gun
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I have what I believe to Winchester Model 1897 WW1 trench gun manufactured in 1918. Any help with pricing, etc. would be extremely helpful. Here are the specs and photos:

 

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Flaming bomb

U.S stamp

1918 patent on the bayonet lug

S/N 691507

Finish: 75-85%

Fully functional

6-row heat shield

Bluing intact under heat shield

Missing two screws on the bayonet lug

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I am not a knowledgeable trench gun collector, but I have to ask, is the US and flaming bomb in the correct spot? I thought they were on the bottom of the receiver right side at the loading port. 

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It is on the right side of the receiver in front of the ejection port. According to American Rifleman, that is correct. https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/the-trench-gun-in-world-war-i/

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A little nicer one went for over $8,000 recently on Jack the Dogs website. They are just about worth their weight in gold  if US  marked and 100% correct. I had a minty one I sold for $13,500. Big Larry

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The WW I Trench Guns (when marked) were ordnance stamped exactly like your gun. Per the factory records, it was manufactured in June 1918.  It has the correct patent marked heat shield.  Overall, the gun is reasonable condition.  I suspect that it would bring $5,000 in a well attended auction.

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Pretty hard to find all original and authentic. IMO!

 

I like seeing it!

 

Thanks for sharing! Smile

 

Anthony

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Thanks, gentlemen. Is spending the $88 for the Winchester Factory Letter worth it?

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tradecraft said
Thanks, gentlemen. Is spending the $88 for the Winchester Factory Letter worth it?
  

It is not possible to letter your Model 1897 Trench Gun.  CFM Factory letters can only be provided for serial numbers < 378000.

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Thanks for letting me know.

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oldcrankyyankee said
I am not a knowledgeable trench gun collector, but I have to ask, is the US and flaming bomb in the correct spot? I thought they were on the bottom of the receiver right side at the loading port. 
  

Sorry, but I have to apologize for my earlier question. It appears I was looking at a model 12 TG when I asked this.

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