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Steve Boguski
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Hello members!

Guest poster currently.  I am wondering if anyone can help with information on the various progressions of Winchester cardboard rifle boxes.  I have rifles in their original boxes from the 1940’s through 1972.  So not super old but perhaps kind of vintage.  I have figured a few things out by serial number correlation of box to rifle.  I would like to know how the boxes changed through time.  There are alphanumeric codes on the underside of boxes for instance, R-36. What does that mean?  Spare magazines had different boxes too.  Any information and pictures would be appreciated.

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Yes, dobyou have any boxes for the period of 50-55 for the model 70?

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Unfortunately I don’t any more.  My only remaining M70 box does not have the rifle for it.  .It is the outer shipping box with the normal rifle box inside.  (Brown box with red W) The rifle was originally shipped to Mr. Ken Waters.  It has been stamped with his name and address on the outer shipping box.  If the name sounds familiar it should.   The 7-30 Waters wildcat round was his concept.  

I just have a dozen or so pre and post-64 M88’s and M100 rifles and carbines in their boxes (new with paperwork etc…) remaining and a 1942  M94 with box, papers etc…

Still looking for info on box chronology if anyone can help!

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Steve Boguski said
Unfortunately I don’t any more.  My only remaining M70 box does not have the rifle for it.  .It is the outer shipping box with the normal rifle box inside.  (Brown box with red W) The rifle was originally shipped to Mr. Ken Waters.  It has been stamped with his name and address on the outer shipping box.  If the name sounds familiar it should.   The 7-30 Waters wildcat round was his concept.  

I just have a dozen or so pre and post-64 M88’s and M100 rifles and carbines in their boxes (new with paperwork etc…) remaining and a 1942  M94 with box, papers etc…

Still looking for info on box chronology if anyone can help!  

If you have either Bob Renebergs Winchester Model 94 book, or Schwing’s Winchester Slide Action Rifles Volume II, they both have chapters illustrating the Winchester Cardboard box chronology.

Al

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Rule also discusses M70 box chronology pp. 57-61.

“If you can’t convince them, confuse them”

President Harry S. Truman

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Steve Boguski said 
The rifle was originally shipped to Mr. Ken Waters.  It has been stamped with his name and address on the outer shipping box.  If the name sounds familiar it should.   The 7-30 Waters wildcat round was his concept.  
  

I’d almost rather have THAT box than the rifle it contained!  Last of the old time gun writers who had known all the great ones who preceded him.  His Pet Loads is the loading manual I always turn to before any other.

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Tedk said
Rule also discusses M70 box chronology pp. 57-61.  

Thank you!  I will need to locate each of those reference books.  Will be great research for me.

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 I have kept Mr. Waters’ box solely for those reasons.

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tionesta1 said

If you have either Bob Renebergs Winchester Model 94 book, or Schwing’s Winchester Slide Action Rifles Volume II, they both have chapters illustrating the Winchester Cardboard box chronology.

Al  

Thanks Al.  I will try to locate those two books!  Sounds like great information!

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