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November 24, 2024
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Hello, new here so hopefully I can get this post correct with a few photographs. A few years ago I purchased a Winchester 2pc Repeater 12 ga. box with “Experimental” stamped on it. I have had 
a number of Win. Leader 12 ga boxes (Lightning Bolts) with “Experimental” on them, but this was my first Repeater box. I know of one other in a collection. Does anyone else have this box? Thanks
March 31, 2009
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All I know is that this is the first of the Repeater boxes. I know nothing of the Experimental over stamp. Without the over stamp this is a Rarity of 2 on a scale of 1 to 5 with 5 being the rarest. Repeaters were not the earliest Smokeless loads. I believe these came out after the Leader. Most Leaders have a Rarity scale of 3.
May 26, 2017
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If you don’t get the answers your looking for her,you could also try rtgammo.com- he is very knowledgeable
November 24, 2024
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Yes he is, personal friend and just spent a week with him.
March 31, 2009
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I don’t think Ray collects shotgun boxes but he does sell some. I bet you have already talked with him.
November 24, 2024
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Hello Chuck, Ray didn’t actively collect shot shell boxes but had some. In his younger days he was a championship trap shooter & said you need to collect shot shell boxes. I guess you could say I talked him into becoming an active shot shell box collector about 3 years ago. He mostly buys for his collection now and as you noted once in awhile will sell some duplicates. He recently allowed me to post a box on the Facebook group for collecting shotgun shell boxes. I believe its the only known one, Peters 1-pc .410 with the “Gildkote” copper plated shot call out on the box. One collector who has the most extensive collection of Peter shot shell boxes had never even seen one.
March 31, 2009
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Although I may not be a close friend of Ray’s, I have known him for over 30 years. We still communicate by email but I only see him in Colorado now. Used to see him at least a half dozen times a year at the various guns shows.
November 24, 2024
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Ray pretty much has limited himself to the Tulsa Gun Show which there are two of them each year and the St. Louis Cartridge Show next April. He has been going to the Colorado show and I use to go with him when it was in Denver. I think its moved twice since then but not sure, I don’t go any longer but I know he has gone there with other buddies.
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