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Bryan Austin
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Does anyone collect these things? I want to replicate one from about 1874 if they were used at that time. I know most pretty ones are from about 1900 to 1915 or so.

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I don’t know when Winchester started using the pictured ones but I have seen some from the 1890’s.  Contact Jennifer at [email protected].  She and her husband Gary sell Winchester memorabilia and stuff like this.

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Thanks!!

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Bryan Austin said
 I want to replicate one from about 1874 if they were used at that time.

They weren’t–use of pictorial covers began after about 1890.

Lots of the later ones on ebay.

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I’ve never seen a lithographed envelope from that early of a period. The earliest I recall seeing them was in the very late 1880s. I think 1888 is the earliest. I’ll have to double check my reference materials.

The only thing that early, I don’t know even then if it was from 1874, is factory correspondence with the company letterhead at the top.

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March 21, 2022 - 5:17 pm
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Thanks guys!!

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1.JPG2.JPGThis envelope is postmarked July 1887. It is the earliest envelope I’ve seen that has the Winchester name on it. I’ve seen a couple of earlier envelope that have the image of the 73, but only have the dealer’s name and address on them. 

back.jpgfront.jpgThis is the next one I’ve seen that is postmarked Aug. 1888. It is the earliest envelope that I’ve come across that advertises their Reloading Tools on the back side. 

After 1907 is when you start seeing these colorful lithographed advertisement envelopes. As far as I can tell everything before then is in black or red ink only.

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Here’s the one with the ’73, not too badly priced:  https://www.ebay.com/itm/255443182922?hash=item3b7999a54a:g:enoAAOSwPJxgk1xB

(Mailed by a clerk who didn’t know up from down.)

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clarence said
Here’s the one with the ’73, not too badly priced:  https://www.ebay.com/itm/255443182922?hash=item3b7999a54a:g:enoAAOSwPJxgk1xB

(Mailed by a clerk who didn’t know up from down.)  

That one has the 1890 on the back too.

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Bryan Austin said
Just stumbled across this site

http://www.classichuntingcollectibles.com/envelopes3.html  

“POR” = “not for sale.” 

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Here’s a couple more20220321_182209.jpg20220321_182219.jpg

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Since I can’t seem to find anything Winchester related for 1874, I just used an 1870’s vintage .10 cent postal replica using a pattern found online. I can add some custom stuff to it later, thought it would be neat sitting next to the 73′.

Oh, included in the envelope would be the Winchester 1874 four page brochure for the Model of 1873. Using the fold marks on the copy, I think it would have looked something like this…..with the price of gas and ammo components, I ain’t got nothin’ else better to do.

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