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July 31, 2005
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I have no interest in this item but wanted other collectors to know it’s for sale. These are pretty hard to find, the 40 grain scoops are most common. Makes a nice accessory to display with your .44 or .38 WCF loading tools.
I call myself a collector as it sounds better than hoarder
March 31, 2009
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It is a 40 scoop but I see no indication it is a Winchester.
May 23, 2009
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Chuck said
It is a 40 scoop but I see no indication it is a Winchester.
Nor would you, but none the less it is a Winchester Powder scoop for 40 grains of Black Powder. They made the “Tear Drop” handled scoops before 1895. The ones after 1895 have a longer handle and is stamped with the grains and the words “FOR BLACK POWDER ONLY”.
Winchester made these from rejected brass Cups from the cartridge brass draw process. They cut the cups even and soldered the handle to the cup. They stamped the handles from a pattern out of rolls of sheet brass and bent a 90 degree on the end. Then later hand stamped the grains onto the handle. I have a couple in my collection were they made a mistake and had to re-stamp the correct grains of powder on the handle.
If your lucky you’ll occasionally find these with the rest of a set of reloading tools in the original box.
Here is a 1891 Tool set that had one with it (cup bottom right corner of photo). The 40 grains for the 32-40 cartridge.
Sincerely,
Maverick
P.S. $40+ seems high to me, but I can remember picking these up for $5-10. But everything is going up with inflation!
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July 31, 2005
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Very nice summary, Maverick. I am personally on the hunt for a 60 grain scoop and a 95 grain scoop. Pretty hard to find.
The reloading tools and molds are not to hard too find, so it makes me wonder what happened to all these scoops. Possibly recycled during the two world wars?
Here’s a little collection of .45-75 memorabilia. 1880 type 4 reloading tool, decapper pin, 1878 type 4 mold with bare handles, 75 grain powder scoop, original cartridge. These items are fun to collect and can be more challenging to find than the guns. I refer to myself as a collector as it sounds better than hoarder.
I call myself a collector as it sounds better than hoarder
March 31, 2009
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Maverick said
Nor would you, but none the less it is a Winchester Powder scoop for 40 grains of Black Powder. They made the “Tear Drop” handled scoops before 1895. The ones after 1895 have a longer handle and is stamped with the grains and the words “FOR BLACK POWDER ONLY”.
Winchester made these from rejected brass Cups from the cartridge brass draw process. They cut the cups even and soldered the handle to the cup. They stamped the handles from a pattern out of rolls of sheet brass and bent a 90 degree on the end. Then later hand stamped the grains onto the handle. I have a couple in my collection were they made a mistake and had to re-stamp the correct grains of powder on the handle.
If your lucky you’ll occasionally find these with the rest of a set of reloading tools in the original box.
Sincerely,
Maverick
P.S. $40+ seems high to me, but I can remember picking these up for $5-10. But everything is going up with inflation!
Very good info. I should have known since this is right up your area of collecting. Now I know what they look like.
