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Re-stamped, and probably fake, .38-70 Winchester bullet mold
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September 4, 2015 - 8:18 pm
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/252073890197?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

 

If you zoom in, you can see the .38-70 is restamped, probably made from a .38-40 mold.

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To me, it looks like the “38-70” was double-stamped. 

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Winchester-32-Bullet-Mold-/121746090240?hash=item1c58a1e900

 

Look at the ‘3’ of the ’32’ of this mold, and compare to the bold ‘3’ of the 38-70 mold.  They appear different.  I am uncomfortable bidding on this one.  Does anyone out there feel confident in doing so?  If so, then this would be a ‘bargain’.

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I would say double stamped. You can’t compare letter styles since you don’t know when each mold was made since stamps are always getting repaired and are made by different engravers.

I would be more concerned about the mold cavity. It looks so fresh with no blue in it. When I get home Tomorrow I will compare it to a known good one.

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This did not sell at $75, and has been relisted.  My guess is that it is not legitimate, as, if it were, it would have been a bargain at $75.

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Just as I suspected, The mold cavity has been recut. There is no chamfer at the back of the bullet and the grease grooves are the wrong shape plus the lack of bluing does not match the outside.

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Bob

Can you post more pictures of your mold including any markings? Also what is your estimated value of your mold (retail)?

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Here are a few more pictures. I figured its worth $150-200

Bob

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I have a original 38-70 also and agree with Bob that the Cavity has been re-cut with a modern cherry.

Maverick

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He ended it early because of a error in the listing!

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