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Bryan Austin
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March 19, 2022 - 1:48 am
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That is a Winchester testimonial from their original announcement. The gun was sold April of 2016 on Gun Slinger Auction.

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That is a Winchester testimonial from their original announcement. The gun was sold April of 2016 on Gun Slinger Auction.

Bob  

Yes, it sold for $125,000:

https://m.facebook.com/gunslingerauctions/photos/a.447633205277231/2557290024311528/?type=3

If that testimonial is accurate, I am very impressed.  A five-shot group that small, shot off-hand at 130 yards… that’s a marvel to me.  

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March 19, 2022 - 1:30 pm
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Does anyone have any dates of the original announcement?

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 The testimonial was December, 20, 1873. The original announcement was in a letter dated 4-10-1874.  Jim Gordan’s book page 74- 81 Vol 1. T/R

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That is very interesting.  What is more interesting to me is that Franklin City, (Franklin) Venango County, Penn. is only 70 miles from me. Beautiful town, and the county seat of Venango County. A lot of old oil history there.

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TR said
 The testimonial was December, 20, 1873. The original announcement was in a letter dated 4-10-1874.  Jim Gordan’s book page 74- 81 Vol 1. T/R  

Same as this one?

4-10-1874 ??

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Bryan,

That is the same letter as in the Gordon book. It appears they were folded and mailed out.

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Thanks,

Where can I find Goran’s book? What is the title?

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 Jim explains the announcement and includes pictures of the letter and post marked envelope sent to Leonidas Cartwright by O. F. Winchester. If Cartwright hadn’t saved the letter maybe we wouldn’t know. Very interesting reading and one of the many reasons to own a set of Jim’s books. T/R

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IMA had a set with about a dozen other Winchester books awhile back for $295. 

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March 19, 2022 - 3:36 pm
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Well then…lol, guess I wont be getting any!!

I never did try and dig deep into the Model 73, just the cartridges. Doesn’t look I will get the chance to either at those prices. I didn’t see that coming!

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At one of those links, one page shows dates ordered delivered etc. I noticed a few had target results although no yardage noted. All noted as Long stocks

  • 12 – 4″
  • 13 – 4″
  • 14 – 3 1/2″
  • 15 – 7″
  • 16 – 4 1/2″
  • 17 – 3 1/2″
  • 19 – 4″
  • 20 – 2 3/4″
  • 21 – 3 1/2″
  • 22 – 2 1/2″
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 According to Gordons book the earliest known advertisements for the 1873 are found in “Forest and Stream” starting in 1875. On page 96 is a full page picture of an ad with four targets, the first two are shot from 400yds with a bullseye of 22″. One target has 25 bullseyes out of 25 shots, the second has 46 bullseyes out of 50 shots. Another target is shot at from 500yds 24″ bullseyes with 88 shots fired. The ad pictures the target with shooters name, distance, shooting position, and location.

 It’s obvious Winchester was proud of their new gun and was trying to push accuracy. T/R

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 According to Gordons book the earliest known advertisements for the 1873 are found in “Forest and Stream” starting in 1875. On page 43 is a full page picture of a ad with four targets, the first two are shot from 400yds with a bullseye of 22″. One target has 25 bullseyes out of 25 shots, the second has 46 bullseyes out of 50 shots. Another target is shot at from 500yds 24″ bullseyes with 88 shots fired. The ad pictures the target with shooters name, distance, shooting position, and location.

 It’s obvious Winchester was proud of their new gun and was trying to push accuracy. T/R  

Volume 4?  I found some but dont see anything yet

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Bryan Austin said
At one of those links, one page shows dates ordered delivered etc. I noticed a few had target results although no yardage noted. All noted as Long stocks

They only listed the target on the early 73’s and was soon dropped. Don’t know what yardage they used.  When they found a barrel that shot exceptionally well it was made into a 1 of 1000 and sold for a premium but they later drop that idea because people questioned the accuracy of their regular guns.

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Oh, this is all I can find
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/200582#page/1/mode/1up

Oh I misunderstood, I thought you meant page 43 of Forest & Stream…..I will look deeper

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I am starting to see Winchester’s advertisements starting Oct 21st 1875, page 176

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Ah, paydirt!!!

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