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Time period for cartridge headstamp
January 23, 2014
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I happily received a mix bag of .33 WCF factory ammo and some reloads yesterday. Would anyone know the approximate time period for these two headstamps?

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January 23, 2014
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If the primer on the W.R.A. Co. is original (no W) I would put it around 1932 to 1946. That’s when the boxes in this caliber no longer show the W primer. I have other calibers with non W primers in 1915 boxes that the ammo looks original but the box shows the W primer and the picture on the box is supposed to show its contents so they may have been reloaded. The W.R.A. came after the Co. stamping so probably after 1946. I think you can get it close using the Giles and Shuey book and looking at the head stamp pictures on the boxes.
Your bag doesn’t happen to have any 30 cal. with the hidden primer with the W on it does it? I need 4 to fill a box.
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January 24, 2014
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Gene

Sorry, I don’t have any extra 30 WCF. I have a variety of them, and some with the hidden or protected primers, but only one or two of each bullet type. What loading/bullet are you looking for?

Thanks for the info on the headstamps. Sort of what I’d guessed but now I know for sure.

Brad

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January 24, 2014
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January 31, 2014
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Gene

I will keep an eye out for those loose or in a junk box. I like the graphics on the box you have pictured and with the "sunburst".

Brad

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March 27, 2014
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Brad,
According to Dan Schuey in his books, W.R.A. CO. Headstamps And Their Variations, "……a factory note states 1930 as the first issue of W.R.A. headstamped cartridges beginning with the .30 W.C.F. caliber."

"The use of the W.R.A. CO. headstamp continued well into the 1930’s on many calibers." He goes on to say individual headstamps were not changed until the old bunters (W.R.A. CO.) became worn and needed to be replaceed."

Based on that information, the change on the .33 Winchester probably took place sometime in the 1930’s.

According to the book, the .33 Winchester was last loaded in 1953.

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March 27, 2014
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Gene,
I have some W.R.A. CO. .30 W.C.F. cartridges with the protected primer and full patch bullets. The cases have split necks and the bullets are 170 grs. If you could use those, I would be happy to send 4 to you.

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March 27, 2014
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Thanks again to both of you guys for the information.

Brad

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March 28, 2014
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Brad,
I forgot to mention….. Winchester introduced their "Staynless" primers in 1929. They superceeded the "NF" (Non Fulminate) primers which were somewhat copper in color.

Both of your cartridges contain Staynless primers so the earliest ….. W.R.A. CO. would be 1929> and the W.R.A. a bit later in the 1930’s.

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March 28, 2014
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John,
Thanks but since posting I have filled the box.
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