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tim tomlinson said BTW, I wish we had a long range here, but too many people with too many homes to get a 1000 yard or 1000 meter range in civilization! We are doing well to have what we have–maxing out at 300 yards. Tim
Even in the 1890s, that was a major difficulty for organizers of long-range (1000 yd) competition, leading to the demise of the Creedmoor matches on Long Island. Sure, there was still plenty of open land in the remote boondocks, but such matches required infrastructure, esp rail, to accommodate shooters & visitors. This problem led indirectly to increased interest in Schuetzen comp, which required no more than 200 yds., & that could be found even in urban areas.
Long-range comp like the Palma Match has nothing to do with hunting.
Made my way to the range today in spite of the rain. Happy to report that using the peep sight has me shooting 3” high at 100 yards and everything feels really good. I had to place a thin piece of paper from a “Rite in the Rain” notebook under the right side of the tang sight base to get it to line up perfectly with the front sight.
The rifle is from 1909, and is putting the bullets in under a 1.5” group at 100 yards and I was able to get them touching at 50 yards. This rifle is a shooter for sure. Today I was using Winchester SuperX ammo with 170gr bullets and it would appear these are liked by this particular rifle. I shot some 170gr Fedral Fusion and those were hitting low at 100 yards. Nothing that couldn’t be remedied with a tang sight adjustment, but the group wasn’t as good as the Winchester ammo.
One thing to note was that I have the Lyman tang sight adjusted all the way to the lowest position, and I was still high at 100 yards, so perhaps a taller front sight would prove useful, but I rather like it where it is, and knowing I can confidently hit my target at 200 yards as long as I have a good rest and shooting position. I am essentially splitting a portion of the drop at 200 yrds where the rifle is currently hitting the target at 100 yards. I have a short trip planned over the weekend, and when I return I’ll go verify my drop at 200 yrds, but I have to drive a little ways to that particular range.
Was a great day and a confidence booster for me and the ol’ Winchester : )
clarence said
Matt H. said
3. Completely omit the rear sight in favor of a blank
#3–because your preoccupation with the essentially useless #6 is leading you on an unprofitable wild-goose chase. Or, just accept that it’s chief value is decorative, & forget about trying to shoot with it, which is what I’d do; this also spares you the trouble of finding a blank.
Why do you find the #6 useless?
oldcrankyyankee said
Why do you find the #6 useless?
If the gun has a tang sight. In that case, it’s an empty slot filler.
clarence said
oldcrankyyankee said
Why do you find the #6 useless?
If the gun has a tang sight. In that case, it’s an empty slot filler.
But if your still hunting in heavy timber or brush, and the likelihood of a close shot the #6 would be an appropriate sight on a gun with a tang or receiver sight. Flip it up for those conditions and flip it down when on stand or open ground expecting a longer shot.
oldcrankyyankee said
But if your still hunting in heavy timber or brush, and the likelihood of a close shot the #6 would be an appropriate sight on a gun with a tang or receiver sight. Flip it up for those conditions and flip it down when on stand or open ground expecting a longer shot.
If you’re saying you can put the front sight on your target faster with the #6, how can that be, when the front sight against the target is the only thing seen through the ap of the tang sight, whereas the #6 or any other open rear sight calls for some degree of alignment of front & rear, or what is it’s purpose, if not alignment? If you’re sighting down the brl without aligning front & rear, that’s just pointing, as with a shotgun bead. “Just pointing” is good enough at close range, & some African pro hunters preferred a 12 g loaded with buckshot for going after wounded game in the heaviest cover.
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