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Reloading for 218 Bee
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Ok guys I have a favor to ask. I am loading for 218 Bee using Hornady brass and Hornady 2229 bullet in HP Bee .224 diameter. Does anyone have the Hornady reloading book that you could send me a pic of the loading data for this combination I am using.. I think Hornady data differs from the  Lyman book I have.

Would be greatly appreciated

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Steve, I’ve scanned the page into my computer.  Next challenge is to retrieve it!  Timscan0001.jpgImage Enlarger

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Steve, due to curvature of the page in the book, powder names are blurred.  Let me recount them here, top to bottom.  Alliant 2400, H110, Accurate 1680, VIHT N-120, Alliant RL-7, H4198.  THUS, Alliant 2400 shows 8.9 gr with speed of 2400 fps.

It was easier than I feared.  May have to try more photos sometime, although I would have preferred a physically SMALLER image!  Tim                                                                                                                                                                               

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Steve,

Here is the complete load data from my Hornady manual…

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Having posted this, if I were to load for the 218 Bee today, I would use Hodgden’s Lil’Gun powder.

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This is a great online reference for developing loads – Reloading Data Center – Hodgdon Reloading Data Center

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Bert, Steve asked for data for a specific bullet, which is not shown in the older manual, which is why I showed it on the one page.    Next, how did you get yours to fold so flat?  Of course the new manual is hard backed and the spine doesn’t allow really flat folding.  Tim

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Thanks guys 

Just what I was looking for. This is the first time I am using Hornady brass and the brass differs a little from Winchester brass. For one the rim thickness is thicker and has caused me issues on my old Bonanza/Forester press. The jaws will not slide over the shell to hold it in place. Never have ever had that problem. The brass also seams to be a tad shorter than winchester so when you look at OAL it gets confusing. If ya want to crimp in the cantalure it will be shorter than what Lyman states. 

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tim tomlinson said
Steve, due to curvature of the page in the book, powder names are blurred.  Let me recount them here, top to bottom.  Alliant 2400, H110, Accurate 1680, VIHT N-120, Alliant RL-7, H4198.  THUS, Alliant 2400 shows 8.9 gr with speed of 2400 fps.
It was easier than I feared.  May have to try more photos sometime, although I would have preferred a physically SMALLER image!  Tim                                                                                                                                                                               
  

Tim does it say anything about IMR4227. 

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I have edition 10 so it may not be up to date.  There is a Version 11.  10 shows a load using IMR 4227 but with a longer heavier 50 grain bullet, not a 218 Bee bullet.  10.7 gr for 2300, 11.3 for 2400, 11.8 for MAX at 2500.  Generally using a heavier bullet requires less powder.   If you use this data with the 45 grain bullet you most likely will be a little slow by about 100 fps.   Use a low to middle load and be safe. 

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Steve, it does not list IMR 4227 with the 45 grain bullet you specified.  The 9th edition (which I used as had your bullet listed)  DOES list IMR 4227 for every other bullet shown, which are 35 gr V MAX, 40 gr V MAX and 40 gr JET, and the 50 gr V MAX, 50 gr SP, and 50 gr SP SX.  In my experience, when a powder is left out of data for one bullet (like in this case) there is likely a good reason.  I WOULD follow their guidance.  Tim

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