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May 17, 2025 - 8:30 pm
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Anyone know what these are? They don’t fit in my 45-75.

Bullet: .450

Neck: .760

Case:1.85

Rim: .665

CartP1040533.JPGImage EnlargerP1040535.JPGImage Enlargerridge:2.375

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Just eye-balling it, I’d guess 45-50 Peabody (45 Sporting).

If not it, likely another Peabody cartridge.

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Looks like a Peabody, however those dimensions don’t match. I have:

Neck Dia .478

Base Dia .516

book has both case length and cartridge length as 2.08 so one of them is a typo.

Cartridges of the World 17th edition.

Also states .45-55 Turkish carbine is similar in looks.

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Steven Gabrielli said
Looks like a Peabody, however those dimensions don’t match. I have:

Neck Dia .478

Base Dia .516

book has both case length and cartridge length as 2.08 so one of them is a typo.

Cartridges of the World 17th edition.

Also states .45-55 Turkish carbine is similar in looks.

  

I enjoy these cartridge threads! Needed to order a part today and the 17th Edition was less than $30 on Amazon, cheap for a reference book. New edition coming out January 2026. My little reference library simply wasn’t complete without it, no idea why I didn’t pick one up years ago. Thanks, Steven!

 

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Just determined cartridges are 11.43 Egyption used in Remington rolling blocks. Don

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Idk, if that’s a .43 Egyptian, your neck diameter measurement is way off. To me the neck length looks too short. IDK 

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Rem43Egypt.jpgImage EnlargerNo I think he’s on the right track. The only way I know to determine if they were made by WRACo would be to dissect one and see what type of primer it has. 

https://www.oldammo.com/november08.htm

But I also question the accuracy of the dimensions given. How is the Neck diameter wider than the Rim?

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Due to my inherent inability to read micrometers and unable to read my own writing I offer the following revised average figures for the 3 cartridges.

bullet dia. : 0.448

neck dia.  : 0.476

shoulder   : 0.539

base        : 0.578

rim dia.  : 0.665

rim thick. : 0.645

case length : 1.97

cart. length: 2.450

Every thing seems okay except cartridge length. Maybe because of flat point bullets 

Hope to hear info regarding these and value as I don’t need them. Don

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Well those numbers are more like it. But I would post it over on a cartridge collecting forum to be sure. There are many 43 Spanish rounds that are very similar to the 43 Egyptian. I don’t have any interest in those calibers / cartridges.

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