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November 19, 2006
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… but maybe I’ve been selling them short?
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1146043514
Buffalo bore also has an offering:
April 15, 2005
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Those are “sissy man’s” loads!
I recently loaded (reloaded) 50 rounds of 38 WCF for my 1918 production Single Shot high-wall rifle… 180-gr Hornady XTP bullets under 24.0 grains of A-2400 powder, WLR primer. I am anticipating 2,100 fps, and it will be a true “Bear” load.
Bert
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December 9, 2002
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Bert,
Refresh our feeble minds on the load pressures of the S.S. rifles. With that how many PSI, are you putting out with you’re loads?
Tony
April 15, 2005
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Anthony said
Bert,
Refresh our feeble minds on the load pressures of the S.S. rifles. With that how many PSI, are you putting out with you’re loads?
Tony
The Post-1900 production Single Shot high-wall center fire receiver frames were all heat treated and proofed for smokeless powder cartridges (e.g. the 30 US, 25-35 WCF, 30 WCF, 32 WS, 35 WCF, and 405 WCF). The 38 WCF load that I am shooting generates nowhere near the same pressure as what my slightly older Single Shot rifle in 405 WCF is subjected to.
Bert
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November 19, 2006
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Bert H. said
Those are “sissy man’s” loads!
I recently loaded (reloaded) 50 rounds of 38 WCF for my 1918 production Single Shot high-wall rifle… 180-gr Hornady XTP bullets under 24.0 grains of A-2400 powder, WLR primer. I am anticipating 2,100 fps, and it will be a true “Bear” load.
Bert
Bert – how would you feel about these loads in a ’92 Winchester?
April 15, 2005
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steve004 said
Bert H. said
Those are “sissy man’s” loads!
I recently loaded (reloaded) 50 rounds of 38 WCF for my 1918 production Single Shot high-wall rifle… 180-gr Hornady XTP bullets under 24.0 grains of A-2400 powder, WLR primer. I am anticipating 2,100 fps, and it will be a true “Bear” load.
Bert
Bert – how would you feel about these loads in a ’92 Winchester?
They would be perfectly fine in a Model 92.
The attached picture is a scanned copy of the October 1911 Winchester Catalog No. 77. I have high-lighted the factory W.H.V. 38-40 load data. The ballistics information was derived using a Model 92 with a 24-inch barrel. My Single Shot high-wall has a much larger (30-inch No. 3 octagon barrel), and a much stronger action. My load does not begin to stress it.
Bert
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November 7, 2015
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steve004 said
Bert H. said
Those are “sissy man’s” loads!
I recently loaded (reloaded) 50 rounds of 38 WCF for my 1918 production Single Shot high-wall rifle… 180-gr Hornady XTP bullets under 24.0 grains of A-2400 powder, WLR primer. I am anticipating 2,100 fps, and it will be a true “Bear” load.
Bert
Bert – how would you feel about these loads in a ’92 Winchester?
That’s quite a bit under what I load for my 1892 for plinking. MLV’s book shows my load has a velocity of 1325fps. Both look like cowboy loads to be. When did SASS start using bear targets?
Mike
April 15, 2005
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The load I am shooting is well below the maximum load as listed in the Ideal Hand Book… 25.5 grains of 2400.
Bert
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November 19, 2006
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I really have a hankering to go out and shoot some of my .38-40’s. Too cold though.
April 15, 2005
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steve004 said
I really have a hankering to go out and shoot some of my .38-40’s. Too cold though.
The W.H.V. load is a reasonably effective medium game load when shooting point blank out to 100-yds. I was very pleasantly surprised with accuracy of the 38 WCF cartridge in my Single Shot high-wall rifle… but it has a Winchester Globe front sight, Mid-range Vernier tang sight, and the Schuetzen double-set triggers. I was able to connect all the holes in a 3-shot group on multiple occasions. 
Sorry about the crappy picture, but the rifle in question is the top high-wall shown in this picture.
Bert
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December 9, 2002
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Bert H. said
Anthony said
Bert,
Refresh our feeble minds on the load pressures of the S.S. rifles. With that how many PSI, are you putting out with you’re loads?
Tony
The Post-1900 production Single Shot high-wall center fire receiver frames were all heat treated and proofed for smokeless powder cartridges (e.g. the 30 US, 25-35 WCF, 30 WCF, 32 WS, 35 WCF, and 405 WCF). The 38 WCF load that I am shooting generates nowhere near same pressure as what my slightly older Single Shot rifle in 405 WCF is subjected to.
Bert
Bert,
I figured that you we’re well within the limits, as I know you better than that! I do like you’re load choice.
Tony
December 9, 2002
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steve004 said
I really have a hankering to go out and shoot some of my .38-40’s. Too cold though.
Steve,
You could try some of Bert’s loads and warm up a bit! 
Tony
March 31, 2009
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Anthony said
Bert,
Refresh our feeble minds on the load pressures of the S.S. rifles. With that how many PSI, are you putting out with you’re loads?
Tony
It is very difficulty to find a loading manual that gives chamber pressures. Some of the early manuals do but if that powder is still made today it is not as hot as the newest version.
November 7, 2015
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Chuck said
Anthony said
Bert,
Refresh our feeble minds on the load pressures of the S.S. rifles. With that how many PSI, are you putting out with you’re loads?
Tony
It is very difficulty to find a loading manual that gives chamber pressures. Some of the early manuals do but if that powder is still made today it is not as hot as the newest version.
On top of that many of the old manuals use Copper Units of Pressure (crusher) numbers instead of the PSI numbers we like. They were also tested in special barrels that approximate actual rifles. I’m pretty certain JMB (over)built the SS, as was his habit, and it will withstand more than most modern actions. Certainly more than I want to shoot, anyway.
Mike
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