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January 8, 2025
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I will preface this by saying that my range is my back yard, however setting everything up, shooting, adjusting sights and what have you, the wife was still upset when I came back to the house. Point being, you can’t win with a woman, so be happy with your guns.
I recently purchased a 2000s Miroukoo 1886 in 45-70 that I needed to shoot. Last winter I bought a 1950 ’94 in 25-35 that I installed a Lyman 66 receiver sight on. My Savage 17HMR needed dialed back in, and the Savage 99E I bought last fall, I’d never confirmed zero on. Also a Sauer SAA 22 Mag that needed some work, that turned into buying a parts pistol, then since I had all the parts, buying another broken one, that I repaired with leftovers, so I had a second in 22LR.
Targets were at 30 yds and 130 yds.
30Yd Target 1886 45-70
130 Yd Target 1886 45-70
30 Yd Target 1886 45-70 Subs
It would be nice if someone could tell me how to use a Full Buckhorn Sight. I’m not sure if I’m right, even after googling instructions. With both sight pictures, I used a 6 O’clock hold. At the 130 yd targets I also had a 12″x17″ plate and an 8″x6″. I hit the small yellow plate 3 out of 4 with the Hornady. After shooting the subs on paper, I just shot the 12×17 for a good gong ring.
45-70 Factory Ammo Used
130 Yd Targets
January 20, 2023
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I don’t have any advice to offer on full buckhorn iron sights because I can’t use them, except to say they might make an interesting decoration resting among the colorful rocks of a goldfish bowl.
I am curious how the FTX rounds cycled and chambered in your Winchester 1886. And was the recoil mild enough for a young or beginning shooter.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
January 8, 2025
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I shot the entire box of the lever evolution ftx bullets. I was using a lead sled on the table. The recoil was less than my 20ga 3” slugs in a bolt action savage 220. I’ll have to do some off hand shooting to tell you for sure. I didn’t have any weight on the lead sled, it’s a good rest for zeroing, friction from the feet on the rug and table do reduce your felt recoil. I’ll better answer your question next time I shoot it. The subsonic rounds I still used the lead sled so I could get a good POI shift. I still hit the large 130 yd steel plate with the same hold. Need to put more rounds on paper. I have a really good start though, inside 100 yds I know I’m good.
January 20, 2023
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Anything you hit in the high lung area with that round is not going to travel very far afterward.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
May 22, 2024
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Ive never shot anything rifle with Full Buckhorn Sights, but id sure like to try them especially if I had a 45-70 or similar old WCF Rifle.
My opinion of correct use if them is pretty much in the eye of the user! My use would start with the sight similar to your right hand Pic, bead in bottom of the U, for up close standard ranges, and 6 O’clock hold. Then thru experimented ranges, the bead in the center, like an aperture-ghist ring sight to determine correct range Bullseye? Then the bead held level with the tips of Horns for longest range Bullseye. At least that’d be my use of them, seems very effective hunting sight for cartridges with trajectory like 45-70 & 45-90, or any similar! Make for lotta fun shooting way out there!
January 8, 2025
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M64lvr said
Ive never shot anything rifle with Full Buckhorn Sights, but id sure like to try them especially if I had a 45-70 or similar old WCF Rifle.
My opinion of correct use if them is pretty much in the eye of the user! My use would start with the sight similar to your right hand Pic, bead in bottom of the U, for up close standard ranges, and 6 O’clock hold. Then thru experimented ranges, the bead in the center, like an aperture-ghist ring sight to determine correct range Bullseye? Then the bead held level with the tips of Horns for longest range Bullseye. At least that’d be my use of them, seems very effective hunting sight for cartridges with trajectory like 45-70 & 45-90, or any similar! Make for lotta fun shooting way out there!
That’s what you will find with a basic google search on how to use the sight. After shooting the modern ammo and extrapolating for trajectory of the 45-70. My sight picture works for 100-150 yds. I don’t plan on shooting past 75 yds when I’m hunting. I think the top of the buckhorn might put me at 300 to 350 yds. I happen to have some steel plates at 330. So I’ll find out when I get to shoot again.
January 8, 2025
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With my group being high left at 130. I think I should have kept the same sight picture.
November 7, 2015
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It’s my impression the sights on some of our old Winchesters are designed for shooting much longer distances than many of us are comfortable with. Some of those guys could really shoot and some of our rifles will surprise us if we are able.
Mike
January 8, 2025
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TXGunNut said
It’s my impression the sights on some of our old Winchesters are designed for shooting much longer distances than many of us are comfortable with. Some of those guys could really shoot and some of our rifles will surprise us if we are able.
Mike
I agree. I try to shoot as much as I can. Each gun is different. Needs its own dope. I’m not good enough yet to outshoot anything I have.
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