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.33 Winchester load for the Model 1886 using IMR 4198
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200 gr Jacketed Hornady bullet.

What might be a suitable, and safe, load and is it accurate?

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The listed load for the 33 WCF using IMR 4198 is 33.0 grains with a 200-gr Hornady FP bullet, producing 2,190 fps.  Starting out, I recommend 32.0 grains and work up slowly for best accuracy.  The 33 WCF is a cartridge that does not perform well with lighter than listed loads.

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Bert H. said
The listed load for the 33 WCF using IMR 4198 is 33.0 grains with a 200-gr Hornady FP bullet, producing 2,190 fps.  Starting out, I recommend 32.0 grains and work up slowly for best accuracy.  The 33 WCF is a cartridge that does not perform well with lighter than listed loads.

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THANK YOU!  Where did you find this—I couldn’t.

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mrcvs said

Bert H. said

The listed load for the 33 WCF using IMR 4198 is 33.0 grains with a 200-gr Hornady FP bullet, producing 2,190 fps.  Starting out, I recommend 32.0 grains and work up slowly for best accuracy.  The 33 WCF is a cartridge that does not perform well with lighter than listed loads.

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THANK YOU!  Where did you find this—I couldn’t.

  

I have several very old reloading manuals.  

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Bert H. said

mrcvs said

Bert H. said

The listed load for the 33 WCF using IMR 4198 is 33.0 grains with a 200-gr Hornady FP bullet, producing 2,190 fps.  Starting out, I recommend 32.0 grains and work up slowly for best accuracy.  The 33 WCF is a cartridge that does not perform well with lighter than listed loads.

Bert

THANK YOU!  Where did you find this—I couldn’t.

  

I have several very old reloading manuals.  

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I have that same manual.  I bought it new – it was Hornady’s current edition at the time Wink

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I have several very old reloading manuals.  

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I have that same manual.  I bought it new – it was Hornady’s current edition at the time Wink

  

Me, too!  

Maybe the grandkids are right, and I am a dinosaur!

BRP

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Blue Ridge Parson said

 

  

I have several very old reloading manuals.  

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I have that same manual.  I bought it new – it was Hornady’s current edition at the time Wink

  

Me, too!  

Maybe the grandkids are right, and I am a dinosaur!

BRP

  

This just proves that collectively, we are all “Old Pharts” Frown

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 Who you calling old?LOLLaugh

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 Who you calling old?LOLLaugh

As the old saying goes…”if the shoe fits, wear it.”

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Bert H. said
The listed load for the 33 WCF using IMR 4198 is 33.0 grains with a 200-gr Hornady FP bullet, producing 2,190 fps.  Starting out, I recommend 32.0 grains and work up slowly for best accuracy.  The 33 WCF is a cartridge that does not perform well with lighter than listed loads.

Bert

  

Mattern (1926) lists a few reduced loads but I haven’t been able to locate No. 17 1/2 or HiVel powders. My first loading manual (1979 Speer) doesn’t list the 33 WCF.

 

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Bert H. said

The listed load for the 33 WCF using IMR 4198 is 33.0 grains with a 200-gr Hornady FP bullet, producing 2,190 fps.  Starting out, I recommend 32.0 grains and work up slowly for best accuracy.  The 33 WCF is a cartridge that does not perform well with lighter than listed loads.

Bert

Mattern (1926) lists a few reduced loads but I haven’t been able to locate No. 17 1/2 or HiVel powders. My first loading manual (1979 Speer) doesn’t list the 33 WCF.

Mike

Well, I guess that means that you are officially not a member of the “OPG” (Old Pharts Gang) Laugh

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 I guess I am just a member of the PG.SmileThat’s my story and I am sticking to it.Laugh

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Well, I guess that means that you are officially not a member of the “OPG” (Old Pharts Gang) Laugh-Bert

 

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I’m proud to be a member of a group where I am one of the younger members at 65. Lyman’s 45th (1970) is guilty of the same shortcoming and it was printed well before I took up reloading. Bit of a sore spot; at a committee meeting later tonight I’ll be the “stupid old man” but I’ll do my best to keep the young whippersnappers in line. Wish me luck!

 

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