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Winchester Model 61 - .22 WRF
April 17, 2021
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My dealer has a model 61 octagon .22WRF. 90% condition, but has a weaver mount, drilled with 2 holes on left side of receiver. $700.  Are the 2 holes a killer?

April 17, 2021
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Yes, for most collectors. But it makes what would be a very expensive model into one more affordable. If it doesn't bother you go for it. I would.

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April 17, 2021
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Agreed. Without the holes it would be $2500..... give or take.

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I would be all over that like a duck on a June bug...........

April 20, 2021
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I purchased one of these (Serial No. 6768) that had the holes filled.  It was at the Big Reno Show and the gun had been passed around a lot and I didn't didn't see the repair because of all the finger prints.  Don Grove was kind enough to point out the reason he passed on the gun.  Nice repair and it is very accurate.  I paid $750 and am glad to have it.  RD61-cal.-mark-001.JPGImage Enlarger61-cal.-mark-002.JPGImage Enlarger

 

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Is there a caliber marking on the barrel?

April 21, 2021
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rogertherelic said
I purchased one of these (Serial No. 6768) that had the holes filled.  It was at the Big Reno Show and the gun had been passed around a lot and I didn't didn't see the repair because of all the finger prints.  Don Grove was kind enough to point out the reason he passed on the gun.  Nice repair and it is very accurate.  I paid $750 and am glad to have it.  RDB

 

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Roger - those holes do sort of look like fingerprints.  I could see how in gun show light, with the rest of the receiver covered with fingerprints, it would be easy to miss the holes.  

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Erin Grivicich said
I would be all over that like a duck on a June bug...........  

Yes, if 90% original blue, I would very much agree with this sentiment.

April 21, 2021
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Is there a caliber marking on the barrel?  

Look at the third picture.  Click on it, and then click on it again (which allows you to see it full size).

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rogertherelic said
I purchased one of these (Serial No. 6768) that had the holes filled.  It was at the Big Reno Show and the gun had been passed around a lot and I didn't didn't see the repair because of all the finger prints.
 

  

Fingerprints on the upper & lower tangs & TG, sure, if it was being examined by prospective buyers, but what a-hole reason would anyone have to be fondling the rcvr?  I wouldn't handle my own guns that way, let alone those belonging to someone else.  Might suggest it was done deliberately to obscure the repair.  A good buy, but a seller who didn't point out the repair, I'd put down for a crook.

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Fingerprints on the upper & lower tangs & TG, sure, if it was being examined by prospective buyers, but what a-hole reason would anyone have to be fondling the rcvr?  I wouldn't handle my own guns that way, let alone those belonging to someone else.  Might suggest it was done deliberately to obscure the repair.  A good buy, but a seller who didn't point out the repair, I'd put down for a crook.  

Wait a minute - this was at a gun show.  Who ever heard of rubber-neckers at gun show touching a receiver?  I'm surprised there wasn't catsup and mustard smeared on the receiver.  

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Who ever heard of rubber-neckers at gun show touching a receiver?  I'm surprised there wasn't catsup and mustard smeared on the receiver.    
 

Not at my table!  But if it happens before you can stop it, you wipe the gun down, after sending the idiot on his way.  Though if you're alert, it's usually possible to spot the buffoons before they grab anything.  Actually, in my experience, most folks were respectful, though it doesn't hurt to have one on those "please ask" signs on the table; though I always asked sign or no sign.

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I added a couple of pictures of the barrel stamp (see above).  As for the hand prints on the receiver question; it was August in Reno, very warm and sweaty hands were every where.  This gun was carried by a walk in seller, we were able to do business like that back in the olden days.  I failed to wipe the gun down properly and carefully inspect it.  Even at that I may have missed the filled holes using the gun show lighting.  Who ever did the work was a master in my book.  No rounded edges, no proof mark loss and the color is almost perfect.  With a perfect bore and original finish on the barrel I was pleased with the transaction.  I have never been accused of being a perfectionist and my reputation remains in tact.  Laugh  RDB

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rogertherelic said
I added a couple of pictures of the barrel stamp (see above).  As for the hand prints on the receiver question; it was August in Reno, very warm and sweaty hands were every where.  This gun was carried by a walk in seller, we were able to do business like that back in the olden days.  I failed to wipe the gun down properly and carefully inspect it.  Even at that I may have missed the filled holes using the gun show lighting.  Who ever did the work was a master in my book.  No rounded edges, no proof mark loss and the color is almost perfect.  With a perfect bore and original finish on the barrel I was pleased with the transaction.  I have never been accused of being a perfectionist and my reputation remains in tact.  Laugh  RDB  

It's a fine rifle and especially at the price.  I see nothing wrong with where you ended up with it.  Even if it had been previously handled by so "a-hole, idiot, or buffoon" (always "appreciate" such clearly descriptive adjectives from that poster).  Thanks for the fine photos also.  I was able to add a few extra data points in my survey with them.

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