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June 28, 2025
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Hello all
This is my first post and I hope I can get some insight on a Model 1900 I just bought.
On the barrel it identifies as a ‘Model 1900 Short and Long’ but the stock is very different from all the illustrations I can find for this Model!
It has 3 major differences, being-
1. A non-tapering fore-stock with a sharp schnabel at the end.
2. A pistol grip instead of a slope.
3. A straight butt rather than a crescent shape.
The obvious answer would be that it is not the original stock that came with the rifle, but there is no sign of any adjustment made to it to suit the barrel shape including the recess for the trigger and sear.
Is it possible that the stock is a factory variation and it is in fact original to the rifle?
Click on numbered links bellow to see photos –
April 15, 2005
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Hello,
The stock is positively a replacement aftermarket item.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
December 9, 2002
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Bert is a 100 percent correct!
He doesn’t need me to verify that!
With a little over 100,000 mfg, at the turn of the Century, no wood stocks we’re fitted with a metal butt plate. With no Serial numbers. All we’re made from a plain straight grip, Gum Wood, and a straight plain wood butt.
The original, later and more desirable stocks, had the well worn in most cases, Winchester logo into the butt end of the stock, right where a person would rest the short rifle, when holding it at the muzzle.
First click on your pictures indicate an aftermarket, even though a nice wood stock, made as desired, by a previous owner. I was surprised to see the barrel, left, as what appears to be original, as most have no finish left on them at all, and mostly a flaked blueing finish, that almost appears to be an older blackened blued finish. Most who wanted to re make a stock, would re blue the metal, accordingly. IMO!
If an original stock we’re to be found, it would increase the value. IMO!
Anthony
August 14, 2021
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+1 to the Bert / Tony bandwagon.
June 28, 2025
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Thanks for that input guys
So it’s a replacement stock from a different rifle, and that’s what I suspected.
The thing that got me wondering was, that the groove that holds the barrel is a perfect fit for the taper of the Model 1900, but I suppose this stock has come from a very similar rifle that also had a tapered barrel.
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April 15, 2005
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alilt said
Thanks for that input guys
So it’s a replacement stock from a different rifle, and that’s what I suspected.
The thing that got me wondering was, that the groove that holds the barrel is a perfect fit for the taper of the Model 1900, but I suppose this stock has come from a very similar rifle that also had a tapered barrel.
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My money is on it being a custom made stock versus a stock from a different rifle.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
December 9, 2002
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Yes!
Custom Made!
Anthony
December 31, 2012
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A 1900 in any condition is a collectors prize. Most I have seen are in bad shape, including mine. I have the early one with unmarked butt. Paid a lot for it, but you never see them for sale. No pics, but it s 100% original. Bore is bad too, but it is a solid 1900 rifle. Best I could find. Big Larry
December 9, 2002
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Great Points made Big Larry. You’re absolutely correct, as you don’t see them. A hard to find gun, even if a little over 100,000 were mfg!
I sold the ones that I had, and they all we’re worn pretty well, as what you were saying is a standard condition for them, but like yours they we’re original.
Anthony
November 7, 2015
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Appears to be nice work, can’t identify the species of wood but I like the figure and contrast. Probably a project starting with a ruined stock and knowing the condition of many of these guns that’s not hard to imagine.
Mike
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