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Winchester 1904A
January 14, 2016
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Hi all and greetings from Australia. I am a new member and have been a keen Winchester collector for many years. 

I have a couple of 1904A rifles that are different from standard and I am hoping that someone may be able to help me out with some information.

They both have 24 inch barrels, straight cut at the muzzle, dated 1930. The knobs on the bolt handle are larger, half an inch, one has the standard hard rubber butt plate and the other flat checked steel as on the 56 and 57. Both have the diamond cut in the trigger guard. I can find no mention of this model in any books, any ideas?  Thank you, Michael. 

January 14, 2016
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Hey are obviously fake. Just send them to me so they don’t confuse anyone.?

Seriousl, I have been looking for a 1904. I found one for sale on a site, the the seller says he can’t find it. ..DAMN!

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January 14, 2016
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The steel butt plate is feasable since the sunset of the 04a was near the end of the 56. Is the hard rubber an oval trademark butt plate?  Do they have the same takedown screw head?

 

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January 14, 2016
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Madis notes in his Winchester Handbook that a “…decorative diamond shape was punched out of the semi-pistol grip trigger guard on the last 34,000 guns made.”

January 14, 2016
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Thanks for your replies. Yes the hard rubber butt plate has the oval trade mark and the take down screw heads are the normal 1904 type. The strangest thing is the extra length barrels, I have looked at a lot of 04s in my time but these are the only ones with the 24 inch barrels that I have seen. George Madis saw them but had no answer. I was lucky enough to have George stay with me when he visited Australia in 1986. What a great bloke.

January 14, 2016
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I heard of those land down under barrel stretchers. Did he have any theory of the larger bolt knob either? Im guessing the intro of the 22lr had a lot to do with inconsistencies of several models.

does the bbl patent date say 1899 or 1898?

 

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January 15, 2016
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Both have the 1898 date. As far as the half inch knob on the bolt handle, I think from memory the model 59 had this style of bolt.

January 15, 2016
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January 15, 2016
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Michael Brown,

 Have you ever seen a model 1904 with a walnut stock, instead of the standard gumwood?

 James

January 15, 2016
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I have quite a few 04s but not one with walnut stock, can’t say that I have seen one. Looks like no body can help me with the long barrels, maybe they only came to Australia. Seems strange that I have found two here, they must be quite rare.

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