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Ok 1st model 2nd model 3rd model scripts on barrels how do you tell the difference in barrels by patent dates?
Roger,
Do you have a copy of Ned Schwing’s superb reference book that discusses the Models 1890 and 1906? If not, I highly recommend finding a copy and adding it to your library.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Schwings’ book is pricey…so here’s the gist.
First model barrels and most 2nd model barrels have no patent dates (the pat.dates are on the tangs).
Late second model barrels will have pat. dates June 26.88.(Browning Bros. original patent) and Dec 6.92. (Winchesters’ 92 pat.date is for the takedown).
Early 3rd models add the date Nov. 27.06 (for the 3rd model receiver with exposed motise cuts).
Later 3rd model barrels add the date May 30.1911 for the re-inforced magazine tube collar.
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ROGER lane said
Wow is very pricey thanks Rustjack and Bert
The book is cheap compared to the cost of making a mistake when purchasing a rifle. If you are going to spend $2000 on a rifle what is the problem of $200 on a book that will help you make an informed purchase and not make a $1000 mistake?
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
I see the gunon the cover of Ned’s book is coming up for auction at R.I.A.. I sure would like to include it in My expanding collection of 1890’s, but it’ll probably go way over My head. Oh ya’ , a couple of hundred bucks for a book with such detailed information on any subject is probably the best money one could spend when considering putting out serious money for an item.
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
November 7, 2015
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ROGER lane said
Wow is very pricey thanks Rustjack and Bert
Roger-
Considering what I paid for this book several years ago and what I’ve learned from reading it I’d say it was one of my better investments. Like many collectors I have a few dozen books in my reference library and they are among my most prized possessions. Even in this “Information Age” I don’t think we’ll ever replace a good book.
Mike
Henry Mero said
I see the gunon the cover of Ned’s book is coming up for auction at R.I.A.. I sure would like to include it in My expanding collection of 1890’s, but it’ll probably go way over My head. Oh ya’ , a couple of hundred bucks for a book with such detailed information on any subject is probably the best money one could spend when considering putting out serious money for an item.
Henry, that’s interesting. Is this from the Paul Vanderlinden or Kidd collection?
I’m not sure who’s collection it was in, but I have the mate to it in .22w.r.f.. Sure would be nice to have the .22 short to go with it. I have a couple of P. Vanderlindens guns, and they sure are dandy’s.
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
November 7, 2015
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Chuck said
Henry Mero said
I see the gunon the cover of Ned’s book is coming up for auction at R.I.A.. I sure would like to include it in My expanding collection of 1890’s, but it’ll probably go way over My head. Oh ya’ , a couple of hundred bucks for a book with such detailed information on any subject is probably the best money one could spend when considering putting out serious money for an item.
Henry, that’s interesting. Is this from the Paul Vanderlinden or Kidd collection?
Was just perusing the catalog and the name of the collection was not mentioned. It is Lot 22, photos are worth a look. If you’d like I’ll make inquiries.
Mike
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