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Strange Winchester .22?
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supergimp
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April 24, 2019 - 5:58 pm
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CFM Tweeted this today:

 

We are reliably informed that this thing is a gun. This strange looking action is a close up of a prototype in our collection that was given to us by Winchester. We have virtually no reference to when it was made or who made it. It seems to be a magazine fed, recoil operated .22.

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Anyone know anything or have any thoughts?

 

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April 24, 2019 - 8:35 pm
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Looks like a prototype for a semi-auto to me.   Big Larry

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April 24, 2019 - 9:29 pm
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Pro’s:  Winchester, Octagon, wood;

Con’s:  Everything else.

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My first question is, Did they lose the Inventory Tag for the gun?

If the Inventory Tag is still with it, What is the Inventory Tag number?

Are there any other markings on the gun? Serial #, etc.?

How long is the barrel? Have they casted the chamber? Is it for .22 Short, .22 Long or .22 long Rifle or other?

There are over 3,000 guns / items listed in the Inventory Book. My understanding is that all of the firearms in the “Winchester Repeating Arms Company’s Firearms Reference Collection” from New Haven would of had or should of had an metal Inventory Tag that went with said item in the move to Cody in 1976.

Glancing through my copy of the inventory book, there are a ton .22 rifle mentioned. And some of the descriptions are vague. Thumbing through the first several pages, the following numbers maybe applicable to said rifle, #335, #343, #834. But I haven’t read through all the 3000 so odd entries. If I was going to research it, I’d create an index of which Inventory descriptions match .22 rifles. Then I’d rule out each description that doesn’t match the said rifle. Then hopefully it could be whittled down to just a few descriptions, and then possibly some light could be shed on what the rifle is.

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Maverick

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Maverick,  where can someone obtain said book…”Glancing through my copy of the inventory book,” I would love to obtain a copy. 

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 “There is but one answer to be made to the dynamite bomb and that can best be made by the Winchester rifle.”

Teddy Roosevelt 

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April 28, 2019 - 9:08 pm
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Brady,

Look up 274 I have that one.

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1873man said
Brady,

Look up 274 I have that one.

Bob  

Here you go Bob,

That looks like an interesting rifle!

Best Regards,

 

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1873man said
Brady,

Look up 274 I have that one.

Bob  

Did you keep the museum tag with it?

I once came across an auction with a Reloading Tool Prototype that had the museum tag with it. Tom Quigley ended wining the bid on it. Once I figured out that he had won it, I told him about the tag, which he was glad to know. The auction company had no idea what the tag was for or from. Tom in turn ended up buying a copy of the Inventory book to go with it. 

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There was a supposed “Winchester Tool Room Model Loading Tool” that was in Yearout’s collection that sold for $7,875.00. I believe that it at one time would of had such an inventory tag. Wish I knew what the tag number was, as it would be helpful with my research.

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Maverick

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April 29, 2019 - 2:08 am
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Brady,

Yes I do have the tag on it.

Bob

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How well does it shoot 44 S&W?

Do you have a Cody letter on it?

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Maverick

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I never had the nerve to try shooting it. Interestingly it just letters as a carbine but I suspect there was no need to entered it in the ledger if it was used as a experimental, they just grabbed parts and assembled a gun. The gun has matching assemble numbers yet the receiver never had a saddle ring.

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