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May 31, 2018 - 12:02 pm

Good morning,

This WAS a standard rifle previously. The wood is like no Model 61 i have ever seen. The 88 in the label on the box is different and the finish is TOO perfect with no alteration of the bluing at the proof stamps. https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-rifles-model-61/winchester-model-61-short-only.cfm?gun_id=101044491

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May 31, 2018 - 6:11 pm

Good job Michael, I see the ad has been pulled already…..

Erin

Might just be the link you posted here or maybe my pc had a hic-up. The link you posted on RFC worked and the ad was still there……

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June 1, 2018 - 1:56 am

Wow. This rifle’s refinishing and modification shoots down one of my arguments for collecting .22’s. From what I can see it looks like very good work and if so the work wasn’t cheap. I think (hope) .22’s are generally safe from this level of fakery but here’s an exception.

I can’t get the link to work, what are they asking for this rifle?

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June 1, 2018 - 2:06 am

$6,250…… It does have the “original” box tho. Wink

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June 1, 2018 - 2:15 am

Quite honestly they lost me at the “box”. These days an “original box” means it’s fake or I can’t afford it. Either way, I’m out.

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June 1, 2018 - 10:21 am

Erin Grivicich said
Good job Michael, I see the ad has been pulled already…..

Erin

Might just be the link you posted here or maybe my pc had a hic-up. The link you posted on RFC worked and the ad was still there……

I edited the link so it works now.

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June 1, 2018 - 4:39 pm

So, does it ever become a criminal offense if a person knowingly (IDK if this seller is knowingly doing this) sells a fraudulent item?

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June 1, 2018 - 6:28 pm

Michael,

Thanks for uncovering these fakes. You are doing us all a great service.

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June 2, 2018 - 4:09 am

TXGunNut said
Quite honestly they lost me at the “box”. These days an “original box” means it’s fake or I can’t afford it. Either way, I’m out.

Mike

You sure got that right. Hopefully these aren’t fakes for that amount of cash. Glad I’m no box collector…

https://www.wardscollectibles.com/viewitem.php?item=4047

https://www.wardscollectibles.com/viewitem.php?item=4048

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