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It took many years, but I finally got a Winchester 06, in nearly 100% condition, that I was able to buy in person. I hate auction sites. That mottled look on the bluing is oil I wiped it down with.

 

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I hate to point this out to you, but that rifle has been completely refinished.

What is the serial number on it?

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The serial number is 753148.  The blueing looks blotchy because I wiped it down with an oily rag.  the blueing is nice and uniform throughout and there are no signs of polishing, pitting and the fit and finish is great.  I actually had trouble breaking it down.  It looks to have never been taken down.

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The serial number is 753148.  The blueing looks blotchy because I wiped it down with an oily rag.  the blueing is nice and uniform throughout and there are no signs of polishing, pitting and the fit and finish is great.  I actually had trouble breaking it down.  It looks to have never been taken down.

The S/N tells us that it was manufactured in June 1927.

There are numerous visual clues that the rifle has been completely refinished.  The fit and finish on the stocks (especially the butt stock) positively show that it has been sanded and refinished.  The color of the bluing on the steel parts is highly indicative of hot salt bluing.  Further, the upper tang stock screw slot is significantly marred, but has 100% bluing coverage… again, highly indicative of having been reblued.  If the Winchester proof marks have 100% bluing coverage, that too is a 100% visual indicator of a reblue job.

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Well, at least I didn’t pay a lot for the gun.  I guess I should have taken a better look at it when I was in the shop.  

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To compliment what Bert is saying, below are a couple pictures of a nice early Model 1906 with original finish.  You can see the difference.

It has serial number 29279, which I believe is a first year production gun, and made from the 2nd model 1890 frame in .22 Short.  And before Winchester applied the “W’ and “P” in an oval proof marks.

This should help.

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Jolly,

June 16th, 1906.

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June 16th, 1906.

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Thank you, Bert.

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jolly bill said
To compliment what Bert is saying, below are a couple pictures of a nice early Model 1906 with original finish.  You can see the difference.

It has serial number 29279, which I believe is a first year production gun, and made from the 2nd model 1890 frame in .22 Short.  And before Winchester applied the “W’ and “P” in an oval proof marks.

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Got you beat Bill. I have # 21675, PR date of 4-23-1906. Exactly the same as yours. Of the 4 very nice ones I have, this is my favorite. Maybe 98% blue with a few bore imperfections. I do agree with you both, the OP’s rifle has been reblued as many, many, are. Hard to find an original M06/M1906 that has not been redone and the ones that haven’t, are very expensive. How are you my old friend Bill?   Big Larry

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Big Larry said

jolly bill said

To compliment what Bert is saying, below are a couple pictures of a nice early Model 1906 with original finish.  You can see the difference.

It has serial number 29279, which I believe is a first year production gun, and made from the 2nd model 1890 frame in .22 Short.  And before Winchester applied the “W’ and “P” in an oval proof marks.

This should help.

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Got you beat Bill. I have # 21675, PR date of 4-23-1906. Exactly the same as yours. Of the 4 very nice ones I have, this is my favorite. Maybe 98% blue with a few bore imperfections. I do agree with you both, the OP’s rifle has been reblued as many, many, are. Hard to find an original M06/M1906 that has not been redone and the ones that haven’t, are very expensive. How are you my old friend Bill?   Big Larry

  

Hi Big Larry.

I am doing well and hope the same for you and that you can still get around somewhat to shoot some of your good ones.

Actually, they are all good., with some much nicer than the others.

Take care Marine.

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Bill, I guess I will never be sorry I bought that 38-44 Outdoorsman from you. I have yet to see another in the condition of that one. Actually, all the guns I bought from you are keepers. Recently, I bought that stainless M06 to go with my 3 others. I would like to find a nice 2nd model, but as you know, any M06 in great shape is very hard to find. Your friend, Big Larry

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Bill, I guess I will never be sorry I bought that 38-44 Outdoorsman from you. I have yet to see another in the condition of that one. Actually, all the guns I bought from you are keepers. Recently, I bought that stainless M06 to go with my 3 others. I would like to find a nice 2nd model, but as you know, any M06 in great shape is very hard to find. Your friend, Big Larry

  

You have a knack for finding the good ones and I’m sure you’ll find a nice 2nd model ’06.

All the best Marine.

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Semper Fi Sailor. As always, thanks for your service to our country. Big Larry

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Semper Fi Sailor. As always, thanks for your service to our country. Big Larry

  

Same to you Big Larry.

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To add to Bert’s list of reblue characteristics there is another that is of great importance. The Polishing and grain of the metal Under the blue. If you become knowledgeable of what original Winchester metal looked like before bluing then no reblue will ever fool you. 

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