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Sometimes I just cannot help myself. 3 new listings for M06 on Guns Intl. All 3 were real nice, not the usual beaters. One sold before I could make up my mind about this  expensive 22 rifle. The thing that caught my eye were the sights. No way to tell if factory, but if they are original, it makes this rifle very rare. Finally made up my mind to buy the rifle. Sent off a check and C&R yesterday. Hoping for a real nice rifle to add to my M06 collection. Big Larry

 

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 The thing that caught my eye were the sights. No way to tell if factory, but if they are original, it makes this rifle very rare. Big Larry said

Best evidence of originality of these sights would be appearance of bluing behind rear sight slot–whether there was a “shadow” or any other sign of a previous sight.  But it seems logical to believe it takes some time for such a shadow to be formed & it might not be visible if a rear sight was replaced immediately after the gun was purchased.  But however they got there, condition of gun in exceptional.

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Certainly looks right at home there, Big Larry. Nice rifle.

 

 

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The#30 rear sight, if on there long, would leave a mark where the elevation screw went up and down. I see no evidence of that in the pics, but the pics are not that good in that area of the bbl. I won’t know for sure until the rifle gets here. The sights alone are worth a Princely sum. The #5 combination sight is very scarce, as is a Winchester plug, if you have ever tried to find one. The rifle was PR’d in 1930 after regular production of it and the M90 ceased, only to resume production on a single line. Schwings book has some good info.             Big Larry

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Larry – I thought you were downsizing?  Surprised

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Larry – I thought you were downsizing?  Surprised

  

I did. I sold off $10,000 worth of guns and gave a few high dollar guns away. Want to save up for a nice M90 in 22 short or LR. Already have a 22 Long. The M1906 rifles fascinate me. Big LarrySmileSmileSmile

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Big Larry said The #5 combination sight is very scarce, as is a Winchester plug, if you have ever tried to find one.
  

I don’t think the #5 is especially scarce (they’re on ebay all the time), but a marked Winchester filler would be much scarcer than either of the sights.  If it has that, rather than a Lyman blank, the sights probably are original.

Scarcer than Lyman’s #5 is Winchester’s version of the Beach sight, made after the Beach patent expired.  It’s virtually identical to a Beach, but has a 1902 pat date on it.  

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I did. I sold off $10,000 worth of guns and gave a few high dollar guns away. Want to save up for a nice M90 in 22 short or LR. Already have a 22 Long. The M1906 rifles fascinate me. Big LarrySmileSmileSmile

  

Sounds like I need to come up for another visit to take more single shot rifles off your hands so you can shift collecting direction again  😉

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JWA said Sounds like I need to come up for another visit to take more single shot rifles off your hands so you can shift collecting direction again 

If you do that, he’ll probably just blow the dough on more S&Ws! 

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JWA said Sounds like I need to come up for another visit to take more single shot rifles off your hands so you can shift collecting d

clarence said

JWA said Sounds like I need to come up for another visit to take more single shot rifles off your hands so you can shift collecting direction again 

If you do that, he’ll probably just blow the dough on more S&Ws! 

  

 

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JWA said Sounds like I need to come up for another visit to take more single shot rifles off your hands so you can shift collecting direction again 

If you do that, he’ll probably just blow the dough on more S&Ws! 

  

Only a couple S&W’s I want. Pre M28 and a 4″ M48-0 no dash.

If you do that, he’ll probably just blow the dough on more S&Ws! 

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The#30 rear sight, if on there long, would leave a mark where the elevation screw went up and down. I see no evidence of that in the pics, but the pics are not that good in that area of the bbl. I won’t know for sure until the rifle gets here. The sights alone are worth a Princely sum. The #5 combination sight is very scarce, as is a Winchester plug, if you have ever tried to find one. The rifle was PR’d in 1930 after regular production of it and the M90 ceased, only to resume production on a single line. Schwings book has some good info.             Big Larry

  

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I believe that you misunderstood what I stated concerning the PR date.  Your Model 06 rifle was manufactured in 1930, and it was still in the regular production period. 

Production of the Model 90 and Model 06 rifles was terminated on June 6th, 1932 (at serial number 846022), and following an 8-month hiatus, the parts clean-up began on February 6th, 1933.  The parts clean-up production began with S/N 846023 (the single rifle made that day).  From June 6th, 1933 through November 23, 1949 (a 16-year 5-month time period) Winchester assembled a total of 8,725 parts clean-up Model 90, 06, 62, and 62A rifles.  These rifles were a conglomeration of parts, with the only consistent thing shared by all of them being a Model 90 serial numbered receiver frame.

I and another fellow (EWH) have been working on a research survey to document as many of the parts clean-up rifles as possible.  Thus far we have found (135) of them as follows;

Final Run/Clean-up Models (S/Ns greater than 846022)
Model 06 62 62A 90 Total
Quantity 18 34 22 61 135
% of Total 13.33% 25.19% 16.30% 45.19% 100.00%
Projected 1,163 2,197 1,422 3,942 8,725

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Sometimes I just cannot help myself. 3 new listings for M06 on Guns Intl. All 3 were real nice, not the usual beaters. One sold before I could make up my mind about this  expensive 22 rifle. The thing that caught my eye were the sights. No way to tell if factory, but if they are original, it makes this rifle very rare. Finally made up my mind to buy the rifle. Sent off a check and C&R yesterday. Hoping for a real nice rifle to add to my M06 collection. Big Larry

 

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Larry – this described a great many of us Laugh

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JWA said Sounds like I need to come up for another visit to take more single shot rifles off your hands so you can shift collecting direction again 

If you do that, he’ll probably just blow the dough on more S&Ws! 

  

I already did that. Bought a S&W pre M28 Highway Patrolman this AM. Vintage 5 screw. 4″ bbl. and real nice. No box.  Big Larry

 

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The#30 rear sight, if on there long, would leave a mark where the elevation screw went up and down. I see no evidence of that in the pics, but the pics are not that good in that area of the bbl. I won’t know for sure until the rifle gets here. The sights alone are worth a Princely sum. The #5 combination sight is very scarce, as is a Winchester plug, if you have ever tried to find one. The rifle was PR’d in 1930 after regular production of it and the M90 ceased, only to resume production on a single line. Schwings book has some good info.             Big Larry

  

Larry,

I believe that you misunderstood what I stated concerning the PR date.  Your Model 06 rifle was manufactured in 1930, and it was still in the regular production period. 

Production of the Model 90 and Model 06 rifles was terminated on June 6th, 1932 (at serial number 846022), and following an 8-month hiatus, the parts clean-up began on February 6th, 1933.  The parts clean-up production began with S/N 846023 (the single rifle made that day).  From June 6th, 1933 through November 23, 1949 (a 16-year 5-month time period) Winchester assembled a total of 8,725 parts clean-up Model 90, 06, 62, and 62A rifles.  These rifles were a conglomeration of parts, with the only consistent thing shared by all of them being a Model 90 serial numbered receiver frame.

I and another fellow (EWH) have been working on a research survey to document as many of the parts clean-up rifles as possible.  Thus far we have found (135) of them as follows;

Final Run/Clean-up Models (S/Ns greater than 846022)
Model 06 62 62A 90 Total
Quantity 18 34 22 61 135
% of Total 13.33% 25.19% 16.30% 45.19% 100.00%
Projected 1,163 2,197 1,422 3,942 8,725

  

Thanks Bert. I was getting info from Schwings book stating that production of both rifles went into one line before mine was made. I have one M62-A parts cleanup and you have that number. Big Larry

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clarence said

JWA said Sounds like I need to come up for another visit to take more single shot rifles off your hands so you can shift collecting direction again 

If you do that, he’ll probably just blow the dough on more S&Ws! 

  

I already did that. Bought a S&W pre M28 Highway Patrolman this AM. Vintage 5 screw. 4″ bbl. and real nice. No box.  Big Larry

 

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Good score! Wasn’t too long ago (or so it seems) Texas DPS Troopers carried that exact model. Oops, that was probably over 40 years ago!

 

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Big Larry said

clarence said

JWA said Sounds like I need to come up for another visit to take more single shot rifles off your hands so you can shift collecting direction again 

If you do that, he’ll probably just blow the dough on more S&Ws! 

  

I already did that. Bought a S&W pre M28 Highway Patrolman this AM. Vintage 5 screw. 4″ bbl. and real nice. No box.  Big Larry

 

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Good score! Wasn’t too long ago (or so it seems) Texas DPS Troopers carried that exact model. Oops, that was probably over 40 years ago!

 

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Mike, back in the mid 60’s, I was a reserve Deputy Sheriff on the San Diego Sheriffs Dept. and carried a S&W M28. I cannot remember anything about the gun, except I scored #1 when we qualified at the Academy. I fired a perfect score, beating out the two instructors. At that time, only .38 Specials were allowed.   Big LarryLaughLaughLaugh

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Sometimes I just cannot help myself. 3 new listings for M06 on Guns Intl. All 3 were real nice, not the usual beaters. One sold before I could make up my mind about this  expensive 22 rifle. The thing that caught my eye were the sights. No way to tell if factory, but if they are original, it makes this rifle very rare. Finally made up my mind to buy the rifle. Sent off a check and C&R yesterday. Hoping for a real nice rifle to add to my M06 collection. Big Larry

 

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Big Larry,

I like your Purchase. Those 06’s are Fun to shoot and collect.

I’ve dealt with Harry Viezen before and have had Good Luck trusting him and his Wife Marcia.Smile

 

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Big Larry said

TXGunNut said

Big Larry said

clarence said

JWA said Sounds like I need to come up for another visit to take more single shot rifles off your hands so you can shift collecting direction again 

If you do that, he’ll probably just blow the dough on more S&Ws! 

  

I already did that. Bought a S&W pre M28 Highway Patrolman this AM. Vintage 5 screw. 4″ bbl. and real nice. No box.  Big Larry

 

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Good score! Wasn’t too long ago (or so it seems) Texas DPS Troopers carried that exact model. Oops, that was probably over 40 years ago!

 

Mike

  

Mike, back in the mid 60’s, I was a reserve Deputy Sheriff on the San Diego Sheriffs Dept. and carried a S&W M28. I cannot remember anything about the gun, except I scored #1 when we qualified at the Academy. I fired a perfect score, beating out the two instructors. At that time, only .38 Specials were allowed.   Big LarryLaughLaughLaugh

  

Larry – that is some fine shooting – a cool accomplishment.

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steve004 said
Speaking of 1906’s – if anyone has ten of these in .22 short laying around, you’d want to have this:

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/parts-ammo-accessories/collectibles-winchester/winchester-shipping-wood-box-for-10-model-1906-rifles-22-short.cfm?gun_id=102112624

  

Don’t believe Larry has 10 yet, but he’s getting close.

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