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Hello everyone.  One of my questions is, will the sight base for a Model 75 fit a 52B?  A year ago this month I won the pictured 52B with that scope and base on RIA for an amazing (to me) hammer price of $700.  So far I’ve done nothing but shoot and clean it.  I have had a couple of 52B’s in the past but neither have had a front sight.  I thought it would be fun to get a rear peep sight since it already has a front sight.  What isn’t so fun is trying to find a base that will fit.  I really have two questions.

1. Will a 75 (or other) base work?

2. How common is it for a 52B Reproduction to have a front sight?  It looks factory installed.

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I tried reviewing the photos and it looks like I’m not posting them the proper way.

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Since the diameter of the receiver is larger on a Winchester 52 than it is on a Winchester 75, the sight base for a 75 will not work on a 52.

Also, none of the 52 Reproductions made by Miroku came with a front sight.  I have fitted front sights to two of them using a new old stock Lyman banded front sight on one, and a Precision Metalsmith front sight (Wisner) on another, but none of them came equipped with sights from USRAC or Miroku.

On the Miroku made 52 rifles to which I added iron sights, I used a Lyman 48F rear sight, which is a perfect fit. The Lyman 57 WTR, while a lesser quality sight, was made by Lyman in the 1990’s specifically for that rifle.

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I tried reviewing the photos and it looks like I’m not posting them the proper way.

  

As a non WACA member, you can only post a URL to photos that you have uploaded on a host website.  Direct upload to the WACA website requires full membership.

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Thanks to all who have replied.

Hmm, bad news on the 75, I’ll tell the guy on eBay his won’t work.  The Lyman 48F and the Lyman 57 WTR doesn’t need a base, is that correct?  Can someone explain why the Lyman 48F is superior to the WTR?  Should I try for the 48F?  I’m editing this post as I go.  I found a 48FH, will this sight work?

I have no idea who installed the front sight but whoever it was did a perfect job.

I believe the photos will work now.  Just click from top to bottom to see in a sort of order if you just want to look at the front sight the last 4 are those.

https://ibb.co/VDM2ghB

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I have no idea who installed the front sight but whoever it was did a perfect job. 

He absolutely did!  Anybody looking at it would be justified in thinking “factory job.”  You got a damn good deal considering this special work (a $100+ job), so you needn’t pinch pennies on the rcvr sight.  (Which needs no base.) 

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clarence said

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I have no idea who installed the front sight but whoever it was did a perfect job. 

He absolutely did!  Anybody looking at it would be justified in thinking “factory job.”  You got a damn good deal considering this special work (a $100+ job), so you needn’t pinch pennies on the rcvr sight.  (Which needs no base.) 

  

Thanks, and yes, I was very surprised that evening when I got the notification email saying I won. I approximated the total cost including transfer fees to be $926.00 by the time I was heading home with it.  I say approximate because two other guns were included that I had to divide the shipping and insurance cost with.  RIA used to be pretty good but now that they have started charging sales tax and raised their buyer premium from 15% to 17.5% you have to bid so low to account for those charges it’s hard to win now.

How about the Lyman 48FH?  The description says it’s for a 52B but with a high comb.

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A Lyman 48 F is what I would look for if I were in your place.  The Lyman 57 is a much lesser sight and just looks cheaper.

A 48FH is too high; it’s meant for a target rifle with a much taller front sight.

A word to the wise: the 48F is an excellent sight, and it will be expensive. I sold a nearly new one on eBay last month, and it went for $417.  You may be able to do better than that. 

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Kisssofdeath said RIA used to be pretty good but now that they have started charging sales tax and raised their buyer premium from 15% to 17.5% you have to bid so low to account for those charges it’s hard to win now.
  

If you contact Guns International dealers directly, not only can you often negotiate a better price, but most will not charge tax except on in-state buyers.  Sometimes this can be done on Gun Broker if gun is listed at a fixed price & you contact dealer directly, not going through GB checkout procedure.  But I have to say in all honesty that the RI buyer’s premium seriously erodes your “good deal,” because $900 is close to the average prices of these guns on GB.  A surprising no are listed in the original box for a couple hundred more.  Nevertheless, I think buying this gun with the front sight professionally installed makes it well worth the money.

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A Lyman 48 F is what I would look for if I were in your place.  The Lyman 57 is a much lesser sight and just looks cheaper.

A 48FH is too high; it’s meant for a target rifle with a much taller front sight.

A word to the wise: the 48F is an excellent sight, and it will be expensive. I sold a nearly new one on eBay last month, and it went for $417.  You may be able to do better than that. 

Best of luck—

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I’ll look for the 48F.  Will the base for a HR Model 12 work? Seems like a lot of sights will work if I can find the correct base.  I’m not opposed to a Redfield or Marble.  I did find a 57 and its at $40 right now.

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Kisssofdeath said RIA used to be pretty good but now that they have started charging sales tax and raised their buyer premium from 15% to 17.5% you have to bid so low to account for those charges it’s hard to win now.

  

If you contact Guns International dealers directly, not only can you often negotiate a better price, but most will not charge tax except on in-state buyers.  Sometimes this can be done on Gun Broker if gun is listed at a fixed price & you contact dealer directly, not going through GB checkout procedure.  But I have to say in all honesty that the RI buyer’s premium seriously erodes your “good deal,” because $900 is close to the average prices of these guns on GB.  A surprising no are listed in the original box for a couple hundred more.  Nevertheless, I think buying this gun with the front sight professionally installed makes it well worth the money.

  

Yeah, the front sight looked as good as it did in the photos.  Plus the nice rings, base and Redfield Golden 5 star did have some value.  Thanks for the tip on Guns International, I’ll take a look for sights there.

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Kisssofdeath said Plus the nice rings, base and Redfield Golden 5 star did have some value.  Thanks for the tip on Guns International, I’ll take a look for sights there.
  

You’re right, I “looked past” the scope & mounts, which, however, I think are overkill on any .22 LR, with a max practical hunting range of 75 yds IF you’re a good shot, or if you’re a Palma-class shooter, maybe a 100 in a heavy target rifle.

My recommendation of GI pertained to guns only; probably 95% of sights & accessories–everything that doesn’t require an FFL–is traded on ebay.

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Kisssofdeath said Plus the nice rings, base and Redfield Golden 5 star did have some value.  Thanks for the tip on Guns International, I’ll take a look for sights there.

  

You’re right, I “looked past” the scope & mounts, which, however, I think are overkill on any .22 LR, with a max practical hunting range of 75 yds IF you’re a good shot, or if you’re a Palma-class shooter, maybe a 100 in a heavy target rifle.

My recommendation of GI pertained to guns only; probably 95% of sights & accessories–everything that doesn’t require an FFL–is traded on ebay.

  

I’m no Palma class shooter but I’ve been very impressed with the performance of a Winchester 52C and a couple of heavy 75’s at 100 yards with premium target ammo recently. The 75’s are older than I, the 52C was built the year I was born. They’ve been shooting excellent targets much longer than I have and 100 yards is not a problem for them today. 100 yards is, however, a problem for my eyes and a decent group at 100 is increasingly difficult. I think the OP’s 52B is worthy of good sights and good ammo, and I hope he is a good shooter. I’m looking forward to a range report!

 

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TXGunNut said I’m no Palma class shooter but I’ve been very impressed with the performance of a Winchester 52C and a couple of heavy 75’s at 100 yards with premium target ammo recently. The 75’s are older than I, the 52C was built the year I was born. They’ve been shooting excellent targets much longer than I have and 100 yards is not a problem for them today. 100 yards is, however, a problem for my eyes and a decent group at 100 is increasingly difficult.  

Mike, I was talking about small-game HUNTING, not shooting from a bench-rest.  Using a 12 lb Stevens match-rifle, scoped, with DSS triggers, & cross-sticks, I’ve killed woodchucks at close to 100 yds, but even with that rig it was questionable, because the bullets have the trajectory of a mortar shell. 

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TXGunNut said I’m no Palma class shooter but I’ve been very impressed with the performance of a Winchester 52C and a couple of heavy 75’s at 100 yards with premium target ammo recently. The 75’s are older than I, the 52C was built the year I was born. They’ve been shooting excellent targets much longer than I have and 100 yards is not a problem for them today. 100 yards is, however, a problem for my eyes and a decent group at 100 is increasingly difficult.  

Mike, I was talking about small-game HUNTING, not shooting from a bench-rest.  Using a 12 lb Stevens match-rifle, scoped, with DSS triggers, & cross-sticks, I’ve killed woodchucks at close to 100 yds, but even with that rig it was questionable, because the bullets have the trajectory of a mortar shell. 

  

Maybe so, Clarence. But the thread is about a 52B and we have yet to discover if the OP has any animosity towards woodchucks. 

 

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TXGunNut said I’m no Palma class shooter but I’ve been very impressed with the performance of a Winchester 52C and a couple of heavy 75’s at 100 yards with premium target ammo recently. The 75’s are older than I, the 52C was built the year I was born. They’ve been shooting excellent targets much longer than I have and 100 yards is not a problem for them today. 100 yards is, however, a problem for my eyes and a decent group at 100 is increasingly difficult.  

Mike, I was talking about small-game HUNTING, not shooting from a bench-rest.  Using a 12 lb Stevens match-rifle, scoped, with DSS triggers, & cross-sticks, I’ve killed woodchucks at close to 100 yds, but even with that rig it was questionable, because the bullets have the trajectory of a mortar shell. 

  

Maybe so, Clarence. But the thread is about a 52B and we have yet to discover if the OP has any animosity towards woodchucks. 

 

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That’s pretty good about the little woodchucks.  

 

As for exact accuracy I’d have to change the scope to something with more magnification.  I’ll probably do that at some point.  Ever since putting a Skinner rear sight on one of my Marlin 39A Golden Mountie’s I’ve been hooked on shooting peep sights.

 

I looked on GI but didn’t find any Lyman sights for sale that would fit.

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Ever since putting a Skinner rear sight on one of my Marlin 39A Golden Mountie’s I’ve been hooked on shooting peep sights.

I looked on GI but didn’t find any Lyman sights for sale that would fit.

  

Since I gave up hunting due to mobility problems, I’ve shot with nothing but peeps on various Model 52s OFFHAND at 150 yds, the max range available to me.  When I could assume the kneeling position, it was my favorite, but my bones & joints make it impossible now.

EBAY, not GI or GB, is the place to find sights. 

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clarence said

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Ever since putting a Skinner rear sight on one of my Marlin 39A Golden Mountie’s I’ve been hooked on shooting peep sights.

I looked on GI but didn’t find any Lyman sights for sale that would fit.

  

Since I gave up hunting due to mobility problems, I’ve shot with nothing but peeps on various Model 52s OFFHAND at 150 yds, the max range available to me.  When I could assume the kneeling position, it was my favorite, but my bones & joints make it impossible now.

EBAY, not GI or GB, is the place to find sights. 

  

I agree.  I know the 57 wtr is not a forum favorite but for $50 total I couldn’t pass it up.

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