Model 52-C for sale on GI|Winchester .22 Rim Fire|Forum|Winchester Collector

Steve,

Naturally at first glance the rifle in a desirable model 52 C Sporting configuration, looks attractive. With you noticing and posting what you found from this Lister, previous listing, on G. I.  First thing I did was look for discrepancies, and to me the rifle looks to possibly be, “Freshened up”, as the stock shows some enhanced reddish stain color, on the right side above the checkering, and on the left rear of the butt stock, you can see some light, what appears to be, sanded scratches, against the grain, under the shiny finish, or waxed and polished wood stock. The front sight ramp looks correct to me, but has a marbles, blank in it, and not the right sight post, and hood. The butt plate looks cleaned up and enhanced, if not painted, as scratches below the black, and even light grooves are visible, where they shouldn’t be on the top rear of the smooth part of the butt plate, next to the, checkering and screw. Maybe it’s the pictures that make it look, like that. Not sure.

The 1957 mfg. date appears to be correct, with the partial 5 digit serial number and the “C”, suffix. It also falls in line with what serial range Seewin has listed and sent, as far as the model, “C”, in the sporting rifle. The low end of serial numbers are #8289xC-#103314c, at the high end, and according to his survey.

Maybe I’m being a little to critical, but for that money, even in a Sporting rifle configuration, It’s one I would rather handle first!

I’m anxious to hear from, Seewin, and BRP, and maybe JWA, will weigh in.

Anthony

I can contribute a little on this one. Mine is 99076C a 1960 vintage gun with original metal and wood finishes. 

The basic configuration of the C Sporting in question is correct for a late G5272R. It has the Micro-Motion trigger,  poorly executed checkering diamonds, plastic M88/100 buttplate, and brazed (non-integral) sight ramp. 

What is missing is the original #3279 sight hood. The image of the hood Ive attached is a marginally lower #3278 because the #3279 is impossible to find.

The blank in the sight ramp is appropriate for the G5272R version of the Sporting but it is the wrong blank. The correct blank is Lyman’s “FS” blank that doesn’t overhang the dovetail as does this one, which is a blank designed for a rear barrel sight dovetail. With this one in place, a sight hood could not be installed. 

While images can be misleading, I’m pretty sure both wood and metal have been refinished. I’ve attached an image of the wood finish on mine.  Much more subdued. The finish on the subject rifle is too bright and a little thick.  To me, the metal finish is too black. Mine is a bit worn in places but original.

Oh, I missed the obvious. As Tony says, the buttplate does show some honest wear underneath its coat of finish or wax but the bolt knob shows no wear at all. Zero, zip, nada.  What is the first blued metal part to show wear, besides the floorplate at the carry point?

Re-blue job, Q.E.D.

Dead on, BRP!  Tim

Blue Ridge Parson said
The real question for me is whether I am willing to buy ANYTHING from a seller who is known for selling many rifles that have been faked.  The answer for me is “Absolutely not!”

BRP

  

Falsus in unum, falsus in alia.  The common law principle as I was taught it in school. Although Google insists it’s “Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.”  I get the meaningless distinction between “the rest” and “everything” but I had to look up how unus/una/unum is declined. Sure enough, the ablative neuter singular case is uno. Score one for Google. 

Rick,

I see what you’re saying with the caliber close up pictures!

That doesn’t look good to me either!

Anthony

steve004 said
I am shocked it didn’t include the original box. 

  

For a couple hundred more it could happen, I suspect.

Mike

TXGunNut said

steve004 said

I am shocked it didn’t include the original box. 

  

That is a pig very hard to rouge up — you really have to make (or buy on the black market from a fellow slime ball who has the tools) one from scratch, suitably but lightly aged.  

In the course of downsizing, I’ve found it necessary to buy an order of the oversized boxes Cameron sells, without the interior foam sandwich or anti-rust sheeting, just so I could safely mail original factory cartons and avoid damage to them. The outer box weighs almost 4 pounds and draws an excess length $18 fee, in addition to priority mail.postage. All up, with a $17 charge to recover my actual cost in the box, it takes around seventy bucks to get the factory carton [only, not the gun] safely to a buyer. But nobody has ever complained.  I will say the outer boxes have sustained damage but the contents have never suffered. 

Also, these factory boxes have all been for out of print Winchesters, Brownings, and Kimbers.  My kids may regret it but I just keep the label and end flap on a current production “white box” Winchester.