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December 31, 2012
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I am having a hard time finding anything about that 1917 vintage M1906 with the standard proofs and external markings. The one with the crowned bbl. and no date. Sights are correct and the bore is minty. Gots to know. Thanks, Big Larry
July 17, 2012
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I am still trying to get up there to see it, only home 2 days this month (and they are not in a row).
Are the proof marks lined up, and same angle, on the receiver and barrel?
Is there an R&R number stamped under the barrel or under the buttplate?
When shining a light on the barrel is it brown-tinged like rust blue or blue-black like Du-Lite?
Best Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
December 31, 2012
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JWA said
I am still trying to get up there to see it, only home 2 days this month (and they are not in a row).Are the proof marks lined up, and same angle, on the receiver and barrel?
Is there an R&R number stamped under the barrel or under the buttplate?
When shining a light on the barrel is it brown-tinged like rust blue or blue-black like Du-Lite?
Best Regards,
I’ll check those out and get back to you. Thanks, Big Larry
December 31, 2012
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JWA said
I am still trying to get up there to see it, only home 2 days this month (and they are not in a row).Are the proof marks lined up, and same angle, on the receiver and barrel?
Is there an R&R number stamped under the barrel or under the buttplate?
When shining a light on the barrel is it brown-tinged like rust blue or blue-black like Du-Lite?
Best Regards,
Proofs lined up. The receiver proof is just a bit bigger and shows bright. No numbers. The M1906’s were all machine blued. Du Lite I believe. They were not rust blued. A cost cutter. Not only is the bbl. crowned, it is the late 4 groove type. This rifle is truly weird. Overall, it has great condition. Thanks, Big Larry
November 1, 2013
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Big Larry said The M1906’s were all machine blued. Du Lite I believe. They were not rust blued. A cost cutter. Not only is the bbl. crowned, it is the late 4 groove type.
Larry, what the factory called “machine bluing” was a form of carbonia bluing–exposing parts to vaporized charcoal or some other source of carbon in a sealed container. Usually smaller parts only, don’t know if it could be done on a brl. DuLite wasn’t used until 1939, so must be some other process.
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clarence said
Big Larry said The M1906’s were all machine blued. Du Lite I believe. They were not rust blued. A cost cutter. Not only is the bbl. crowned, it is the late 4 groove type.
Larry, what the factory called “machine bluing” was a form of carbonia bluing–exposing parts to vaporized charcoal or some other source of carbon in a sealed container. Usually smaller parts only, don’t know if it could be done on a brl. DuLite wasn’t used until 1939, so must be some other process.
I have Schwings book and will look it up again tonight. I know for sure the M1906 series was not rust blued like the M1890. I have a 1907 M1890, and it is rusty!!!! Thanks, Big Larry
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The receiver frames were machined blued, and the barrels were rust blued… on both the Model 1890 and 1906. Clarence is correct in that DuLite bluing did not become the standard until 1939, though it was used on a few models as early as late 1935.
Bert
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December 31, 2012
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Bert H. said
The receiver frames were machined blued, and the barrels were rust blued… on both the Model 1890 and 1906. Clarence is correct in that DuLite bluing did not become the standard until 1939, though it was used on a few models as early as late 1935.Bert
Book says the bbls. on the M1906 were all niter blued in large batches. That may explain why all my rifles have blued muzzles, not in the white. Book says this was a cost cutting measure and didn’t wear as well as rust blue. A good reason for many M1906 bbls. that have real thin blue. Big Larry
November 1, 2013
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Big Larry said
Book says the bbls. on the M1906 were all niter blued in large batches. That may explain why all my rifles have blued muzzles, not in the white. Book says this was a cost cutting measure and didn’t wear as well as rust blue. A good reason for many M1906 bbls. that have real thin blue. Big Larry
That would make sense, much cheaper & quicker, though I’ve never heard of it being used on parts as large as brls.
April 15, 2005
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Big Larry said
Bert H. said
The receiver frames were machined blued, and the barrels were rust blued… on both the Model 1890 and 1906. Clarence is correct in that DuLite bluing did not become the standard until 1939, though it was used on a few models as early as late 1935.
Bert
Book says the bbls. on the M1906 were all niter blued in large batches. That may explain why all my rifles have blued muzzles, not in the white. Book says this was a cost cutting measure and didn’t wear as well as rust blue. A good reason for many M1906 bbls. that have real thin blue. Big Larry
Larry,
Niter bluing was used on small parts like screws, loading gates. etc. I will strongly disagree with Ned Schwing on this topic. Both of the Model 1906 rifles that I own have rust blued barrels.
Bert
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July 17, 2012
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I agree with Bert,
Niter bluing was used on small parts, and it is a very distinctive bright blue. All of my 1906’s that have good finish have rust-blued barrels.
Can’t wait to see your mystery rifle! I will bring a few very nice 1906’s up to show you when I come if you promise not to offer me a stupid amount of money for them 😉
Best Regards,
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JWA said
I agree with Bert,Niter bluing was used on small parts, and it is a very distinctive bright blue. All of my 1906’s that have good finish have rust-blued barrels.
Can’t wait to see your mystery rifle! I will bring a few very nice 1906’s up to show you when I come if you promise not to offer me a stupid amount of money for them 😉
Best Regards,
Always trade bait Sir. Thanks, Larry
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