If these crooks are buying directly from Speer, I wonder if Speer is aware of the price gouging? Or is Speer participating in it?
Speer produces a special brand of handgun ammo called Lawman for the cops who shoot at my range, & supply it to them in UNlimited quantity, at, I suspect, the pre-panic price; another one of the US ammo companies which have thrown us under the bus in preference to supplying LE & the US gov’t.
clarence said
If these crooks are buying directly from Speer, I wonder if Speer is aware of the price gouging? Or is Speer participating in it?Clarence –
I notice many of the standard distributors are offering, what little ammo they have, a pandemic prices. It does beg the question, are they passing on a big price hike from the manufacturers or, are they soaking up all the profit?
steve004 said
I notice many of the standard distributors are offering, what little ammo they have, a pandemic prices. It does beg the question, are they passing on a big price hike from the manufacturers or, are they soaking up all the profit?
If the ammo maker is even AWARE that a distributor is engaging in price-gouging (which it’s their responsibility to find out), & fails to cut the price-gouger off from further deliveries, then the maker is complicit in the profiteering, whether or not they are profiting directly from it.
November 7, 2015
I can’t imagine paying $2/round for rimfire ammo. Sad thing is, someone will. I don’t think the manufacturers (other than Winchester) have gone up on their prices but I’m betting they will follow Winchester’s lead of a 10% (+/-) increase.
Mike
I think we are going to see a very extended period of ammunition shortages. I believe this will be particularly true of the older and semi-obsolete cartridges. At first I was mystified when nearly all of the distributors were out of stock of about everything in this class – .25-20, .32 Special, .300 Savage, .35 Remington, .30-40 Krag and on and on. For most of these, not a single box is available unless it happens to be sitting on a store shelf. If you look at ammoseek.com, the cartridges I named are mostly unavailable throughout the country (from distributors). However, you can find .22 LR, .22 magnum, .30-06, .308, .30-30, .223 and 9mm (i.e. for outrageous prices). But the others, completely gone. I suspect what happened is the manufacturers completely took these slower sellers out of production and shifted their manufacturing efforts to what is in demand. I don’t see this changing back for a very long time. So the non-reloaders that hunt with .300 Savages, .35 Remingtons, .32 Specials and the like might really be out of luck.
Having said the above, I was thinking about how many rounds I have expended over decades of deer hunting. Some years, I didn’t get a shot, some years, one shot one deer, some years a couple shots. I suspect if I averaged it, it wouldn’t average out at more than 2 to 3 rounds a year (this of course does not include any practice or zero-checking) In that scenario, paying $100 for a box of ammo that would keep me hunting for ten years is not an excessive expense.
I have read old hunting stories where some old hunter had taken 20 caribou with one box of cartridges – over the course of 20 years. And that cartridge was not a .300 magnum either
November 7, 2015
Steve-
I’ve found that the big ammo makers only make a run of the less popular cartridges and components once a year, maybe less often. When those are gone shooters who don’t reload will have to wait until the next scheduled run. That’s also why I tend to load up on brass when I find it for cartridges I’m starting to load, never know when I’ll see it again.
Mike
TXGunNut said
… That’s also why I tend to load up on brass when I find it for cartridges I’m starting to load, never know when I’ll see it again.Mike
I bought a bunch of 30-40 Krag to form into 40-70SS to feed the C. Sharps. Then I thought, man, while I have all this brass I ought to look for a gun to use it in. So now when I get brass in a shipment, the better half always asks if I already own the gun.
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November 7, 2015
rwsem said
I bought a bunch of 30-40 Krag to form into 40-70SS to feed the C. Sharps. Then I thought, man, while I have all this brass I ought to look for a gun to use it in. So now when I get brass in a shipment, the better half always asks if I already own the gun.
On the cast bullet site I occasionally frequent the joke is to buy an interesting mould and then find a rifle to fire the bullets. What makes it even funnier is that some of them actually do it! Will neither confirm nor deny doing something like that. I do have a few rifles I won’t sell because I’ve invested too much in brass, dies, moulds and sizing dies to let the rifle go.
Mike
TXGunNut said
On the cast bullet site I occasionally frequent the joke is to buy an interesting mould and then find a rifle to fire the bullets. What makes it even funnier is that some of them actually do it! Will neither confirm nor deny doing something like that. I do have a few rifles I won’t sell because I’ve invested too much in brass, dies, moulds and sizing dies to let the rifle go.
Mike
I won’t say I know a guy who got in on the A.C.E. 12 Ga 740 Gr HB Slug group buy and then I, I mean he, had to buy a slug barrel for the shotgun….
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