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Fake Model 61 with LR Shot Only Counterbore
April 5, 2021
1:47 pm
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This rifle was first seen back in 2013 and at that time it looked refinished and had a funky looking caliber stamp.  Now it shows up with new wood and a LR for shot only counterbore barrel on it.  And a $3777 opening bid!!  

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April 5, 2021
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Michael,

I can’t believe how many fakers are out there. Thanks for keeping track of these, you are doing us collectors a great service.

Al

April 5, 2021
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tionesta1 said
Michael,

I can’t believe how many fakers are out there. Thanks for keeping track of these, you are doing us collectors a great service.

Al  

Glad to help Al.  I had not found a fake 61 in more than 10 months so I was thinking that they may be slowing down.  

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April 6, 2021
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Fakers should be flogged.

Shoot low boys. They're riding Shetland Ponies.

April 6, 2021
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twobit said

Glad to help Al.  I had not found a fake 61 in more than 10 months so I was thinking that they may be slowing down.  

Michael  

Still turning out high-quality work. I suspect he’s been staying busy, just haven’t spotted them yet. 

 

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Yes, thanks again for this service Michael.  I appreciate your dedication.  By the way, has this “A+” Gunbroker seller, been made aware of what he is selling?

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Yes, thanks again for this service Michael.  I appreciate your dedication.  By the way, has this “A+” Gunbroker seller, been made aware of what he is selling?  

Yes.  I sent him an email with the information I had.

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Is there a timeline when Winchester stopped counter boring the Model 61 and went to the straight through 22 smooth bore?  RDB

April 21, 2021
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Has anyone looked at the listings for the upcoming Lewis & Grant auction. There are quite a few M 61’s listed as shot only and listed as factory engraved. Any thoughts on authentication? 

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walt.bryan@bcg.com said
Has anyone looked at the listings for the upcoming Lewis & Grant auction. There are quite a few M 61’s listed as shot only and listed as factory engraved. Any thoughts on authentication?   

“Has anyone?”  As in me?  Laugh  I have not previously seen those three rifles so I can not say that they are absolutely faked.  BUT, they appear to be very similar to guns I have seen and were noted to be “non factory upgraded”

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April 21, 2021
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twobit said

“Has anyone?”  As in me?  Laugh  I have not previously seen those three rifles so I can not say that they are absolutely faked.  BUT, they appear to be very similar to guns I have seen and were noted to be “non factory upgraded”

Michael  

Michael – you were the likely suspect here  Laugh

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