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David Attanasio said
Redman’s  responded, he isn’t interested in doing the work!!! So anybody have contact info for John Taylor? Does he have a web sight?

Thanks  

I think he may have moved since I dealt with him.

https://johntaylormachine.com/

Sounds like him.

 

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TXGunNut said

I think he may have moved since I dealt with him.

https://johntaylormachine.com/

Sounds like him.

 

Mike  

Yes, looks like it.  However, hate to think of a gunsmith of his talents devoting his time to bowling ball mortars.

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clarence said

Yes, looks like it.  However, hate to think of a gunsmith of his talents devoting his time to bowling ball mortars.  

Good point but I must admit it would be fun for awhile. 

 

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Well I guess I will put it in the back of the safe for now. My main collecting hobby is 1890 pumps 2nd issue, this rifle was part of a a group that I received. 

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Well I guess I will put it in the back of the safe for now. My main collecting hobby is 1890 pumps 2nd issue, this rifle was part of a a group that I received.   

You’ve got nothing to loose by asking John Taylor if he’s willing to accept it–it would make a good “test case” of whether he’s back in business.  If he’s not, he might suggest someone he knows would do a good job for you.  Or, if you have no great personal interest in it, let it become someone else’s problem.  (But not mine!)

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I sent e mail to John Taylor, he responded  and said he would reline barrel in 32/20 and do extractor also. Just waiting to get details and ship to info. Overall about $500 including return shipping. Works for me.

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David Attanasio said
I sent e mail to John Taylor, he responded  and said he would reline barrel in 32/20 and do extractor also. Just waiting to get details and ship to info. Overall about $500 including return shipping. Works for me.  

If Redman is getting $375 for a routine RF job, that isn’t bad, & I’m sure you’ll be pleased with Taylor’s workmanship.  I have a HW in 32-20, but I’d like it better if it didn’t have a #3, 30 in., brl!

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clarence said

Amazed to hear that!  Guess wholesaling to Brownell’s relieves Redman of the need for jobs such as yours.  I well remember when he’d take any work he could get. 

I was about to give you John Taylor’s add. when I ran across this shocking info on the ASSRA website: https://www.assra.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1603507950

I’m stunned.   

But isn’t he up and running in Idaho now?

John Taylor 
Taylor Machine 
Lewiston, ID
253-777-7793

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steve004 said

But isn’t he up and running in Idaho now?

John Taylor 
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Lewiston, ID
253-777-7793  

Yes, but we weren’t completely sure he was taking on new work.

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John Taylor posted on ASSRA that he had COVID and is trying to get caught up. He’s worth waiting for. 

 

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He confirmed my rifle arrived today and will be in line to start work. I’ll check back with him in about a month or so to see what he thinks his time line will be. Not going to bug him about it just looking for an est.

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He confirmed my rifle arrived today and will be in line to start work. I’ll check back with him in about a month or so to see what he thinks his time line will be. Not going to bug him about it just looking for an est.  

It was taking him about a yr for similar work before his relocation & his illness.  Responding to phone calls & emails interrupts his work.  If a problem arises, he’ll notify you. 

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Hope everyone has a good Thanksgiving!  I just heard from John Taylor, he said he had a hard time getting the barrel off the reviver and in the process the receiver was slightly dented. He asked if I wanted him to weld it but it would then have to be polished off and in the white on one side.  Waiting to hear what “slightly” dented is and if welded could it still be re finished (blue or case color) if he has a source for that work.  Not sure if its worth sinking more $ into of just leaving it as is for a shooter. Not exactly what I had in mind. 

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David Attanasio said   Waiting to hear what “slightly” dented is and if welded could it still be re finished (blue or case color) if he has a source for that work.  Not sure if its worth sinking more $ into of just leaving it as is for a shooter. Not exactly what I had in mind.   

Jeez,  I don’t reckon!  What a bummer!  Why don’t you wait until you see the “dent” yourself before deciding what to do next.

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Ouch! Sounds like you’re on the slippery slope towards restoration. At this point the only argument against it is $. Tough call.

 

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Ouch! Sounds like you’re on the slippery slope towards restoration. At this point the only argument against it is $. Tough call.

 

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Would be a pity if it comes to that, as guns in “fair” cond. I especially like, restored guns not at all.  Just can’t imagine how it happened, as it’s something Taylor has done a thousand times.  When the block & extractor have been removed, a spacer block of some kind should be inserted into the rcvr to prevent the rcvr. wrench from bending or distorting the sides of the rcvr.  Did he forget to do this?  I should be his responsibility to fully correct & restore whatever damage has been done to the rcvr., but still I would want to see it first before deciding what next to do next; maybe it’s not as bad as it sounds.  

But if you think this is bad, it’s nothing compared to the stupidity of some idiot working for Shilen Brls., who tried to unscrew the brl of a scarce M1922 Spfd. without removing the bolt!  Result: broken extractor of course (try to find one of those) & a big chip broken out of the breech end of the brl!

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John told me that the low wall receivers have a slot milled in for when they are to be for 22 rim fire which creates a thin spot. The dent is very shallow and about 1/4″ in size. He will try and push it back out. I have to decide to stop there or go ahead and have receiver re finished. He said he has a guy that does color case

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David Attanasio said
John told me that the low wall receivers have a slot milled in for when they are to be for 22 rim fire which creates a thin spot. The dent is very shallow and about 1/4″ in size. He will try and push it back out. I have to decide to stop there or go ahead and have receiver re finished. He said he has a guy that does color case  

David,  Here’s the problem with any partial restoration: the contrast between the refinished part & all the other parts left in their original condition.  If this gun was in, say, 95% cond., the contrast wouldn’t be too great, but if only “fair” cond., it would be very noticeable, especially considering the brightness of new CC.  However, that can be rubbed down without too much effort using a fine abrasive paste such as 3 or 4 X Clover.  Had to do the same thing myself with a rcvr on a Stevens that somehow had been very scratched up, though the other parts were still in very nice original cond.

Still think it might be best to decide for yourself what to do after seeing the damage, but considering the cost of shipping the barreled rcvr. back to Taylor if you should opt to have the CC job done, maybe letting him see to that (at his expense!) would be best.  Now if the Winchester SS had an easily detachable brl, like all Stevens SSs, the cost of shipping wouldn’t be a factor at all!

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David,

 If you have the barrel relined it’s already just a shooter, an extra small dent does not make much difference at that point. Refinish of the frame would be good money after bad. I’ve gone down that rabbit hole myself, won’t do it again. T/R

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David,

 If you have the barrel relined it’s already just a shooter, an extra small dent does not make much difference at that point. Refinish of the frame would be good money after bad. I’ve gone down that rabbit hole myself, won’t do it again. T/R  

These are my thoughts.  Well, actually, they’re TR’s thoughts, but I have the same ones  Laugh

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