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November 24, 2016
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Jeff,

That Schuetzen Rifle will put a serious dent in your retirement fund!

As it was listed in the 1911 catalog, the rifle I posted pictures of was $62, plus $29 for the A5 Telescope. Today, it would cost you at least $17,500 to acquire it (nearly 200X the original price).

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November 24, 2016
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Bert H. said

Larry,

Winchester manufactured a fair number of their high-end Schuetzen Rifles in 22 Short, and the standard competition was 100-yards… offhand!  Thus far, I have surveyed 100 Schuetzen Rifles in 22 Short, and nearly that many in 22 Long Rifle.  The pictures below show one of them in full glory.

Bert

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Holy Moly Bert, that is a very beautiful rifle. Does it letter with an A5 scope? I have a 1927 M52 with an A5 presumably original to the rifle, but it won’t letter so I will never know for sure. Both rifle and scope are 98%. Again, that is a very fine rifle. Thanks for sharing.   Big Larry

November 24, 2016
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…….By now you have been judged certifiably crazy by the rest of the Winchester community and decide to go completely nuts and collect all the sub-variations also (standard barrel, heavy barrel, bull barrel, octagon barrel, deluxe stocks, factory sight variations, special order features, factory scoped rifles, youth models, gallery guns, factory engraved rifles, boxed sets, etc.).

And then, when you finally get to my level of lunacy, you are collecting every documented manufacturing variation of every catalogued Winchester .22 rim fire model.  I think that task will take me the rest of my life (and all my retirement income).

So, I hear what you are saying and know EXACTLY where you are on the addiction scale.  I am just saying it gets worse my friend. -JWA

 

Hoping to add my first Winchester 22 soon but most folks think I’m a bit touched as far as gun collecting goes so nothing to lose there, lol. Tough part for me is trying to figure out where to start, looks like it gets easier from there. Wink

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November 24, 2016
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Bert H. said
Today, it would cost you at least $17,500 to acquire it (nearly 200X the original price).
Bert  

Jeez…I’d been thinking maybe about 10 Gs…and even that “small” sum would exceed what I paid for the truck I’m now driving.

November 24, 2016
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Big Larry said

Holy Moly Bert, that is a very beautiful rifle. Does it letter with an A5 scope? I have a 1927 M52 with an A5 presumably original to the rifle, but it won’t letter so I will never know for sure. Both rifle and scope are 98%. Again, that is a very fine rifle. Thanks for sharing.   Big Larry  

The serial number is too late to letter it (the ledger records at Cody end at 109999).  This Schuetzen Rifle is serial number 118849, and it was manufactured in July of 1916.  The A5 Scope is factory original to the rifle, and it was a common item found on many of the late production Schuetzen Rifles.

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November 24, 2016
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Big Larry said 

I have a 1927 M52 with an A5 presumably original to the rifle, but it won’t letter so I will never know for sure.Big Larry  

I know individual records weren’t maintained for standard 52s, but what about special orders, such as this one, or those with checkering, as shown in Houze; he calls the latter “Special Orders,” as is obvious of course, but is there also documentation for them?

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clarence said

I know individual records weren’t maintained for standard 52s, but what about special orders, such as this one, or those with checkering, as shown in Houze; he calls the latter “Special Orders,” as is obvious of course, but is there also documentation for them?  

Clarence, years ago at the old Great Western gun show, my BIL spotted a M52 on a table with a A5 on it. He looked it over and the seller had the original Winchester receipt for the rifle and scope. My BIL asked if he would just sell him the scope, and he did. What an idiot. Nope. No way to tell without paper of some sort, but it is 100% correct with that scope on my M52.   Big Larry

November 25, 2016
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What an idiot…  Big Larry  

An unbelievable idiot, because to me that receipt would add about 50% to the separate values of the rifle and scope. 

November 25, 2016
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An unbelievable idiot, because to me that receipt would add about 50% to the separate values of the rifle and scope.   

Add to that, it was in its original shipping box. My BIL mounted that scope on a beautiful Springfield 1922 M1. Still has it. One of mine came off a Springfield M1903 30 cal. heavy bbl. target rifle. A super nice Style “T”. Rifle gone now, and the buyer didn’t want the scope. It had its original box too. I still have it as a spare.   Big LarryT-and-scopes-025.jpgImage EnlargerT-and-scopes-011.jpgImage Enlarger

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