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December 6, 2022
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I recently acquired a 67a in what I would call near mint condition. It is configured with model 68 sights, 97a ramp front with a missing hood. A 96a peep mounted in the normal rear sight dovetail. In addition it has a factory looking 11/4″ sling swivel in front only, ala 69a JTSS. No tool marks anywhere from bubba. My googler is worn out so I’m here. I’d be happy to PM pics. Thanks for any help in figuring this one out.
April 30, 2023
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Hello and sure, let’s see some pics! You can PM them to me or email me at [email protected] and I’ll post them for you.
December 6, 2022
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Thanks a lot. I will email them.
April 30, 2023
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Here’s the pics Bob sent:
April 30, 2023
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a few more photos…
August 14, 2021
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I would remove the Model 68 peep, it just looks wrong there, seems it would be hard to even see. Needs some pics of the barrel roll marking and the whole rifle would be nice.
February 19, 2014
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What you have is a 67A that someone put target sights on.
Winchester discontinued the model 68 and added the 67 target as an option in 1943.
The 68 and 67 were the same except for sights.
I have no clue on the sling swivels but drought they are factory.
December 6, 2022
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cranky2 said
What you have is a 67A that someone put target sights on.
Winchester discontinued the model 68 and added the 67 target as an option in 1943.
The 68 and 67 were the same except for sights.
I have no clue on the sling swivels but drought they are factory.
Thanks alot for the assistance. I was extremely skeptical of originality, but I don’t know everything so I had to ask. Take care.
March 4, 1985
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the Model 67 could be ordered with a peep sight I think this is what you have
August 14, 2021
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David Briggs said
the Model 67 could be ordered with a peep sight I think this is what you have
Disagree, the 96A peep sight was standard on the Model 68, and was mounted much farther back.
The only options on the 67 were a Lyman 55W reciever sight and a Lyman 57ES receiver sight which required the safety to be altered.
Standard rear sight was a 32B with a 2C elevator.
July 9, 2011
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Copied from Wikipedia……….
The Model 68 was basically a Model 67 with a hooded front sight and an aperture rear sight. The Model 68 was effectively rendered redundant when its special sights became optional on the Model 67 in August 1943, but the rifle was not actually discontinued until 1944, and deliveries from inventory continued into 1945.
August 14, 2021
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Well if Wikipedia said it, it must be true. I would need confirmation of that from Jeff.
However Madi’s does mention later on 96 peep sights could be had on special order, but will be rarely seen, so maybe it’s right. But I don’t think that would render the 68 into obsolescence.
I stand corrected.
May 10, 2006
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Cranky is right, I think.
The Winchester 67 and 68 were basically the same gun with different sights. The standard sights on a 67 were the 75C front and 32B rear (like Steven said). The 68 had a 96A rear sight that was seated farther back toward the breech, (as opposed to the 96B which had a different base and was used on the 69), and a 97A front (later the 101A).
After WWII Winchester offered the 67 with the same sights in the same configuration as the 68. They gave this new 67 a separate model number, G6780R. It was cataloged from 1946-1950. Since this was the exact same gun as the 68, they discontinued production of the 68, although they continued to catalog the 68 through 1947, I suppose until they ran out of existing guns.
Bob’s gun appears to be a regular 67 that someone swapped out the sights on. If it was a factory peep sight model, the rear sight would be seated farther back, just in front of the breech.
I was going to say that the 67A was never offered with this sight configuration, but I suppose it’s technically possible that it was. The G6780R lasted until 1950, and the 67A designation happened in 1949. So I guess it’s possible that there is a 67A with the peep sight configuration out there. That’s one of the things I love about collecting this model – there are tons of variations floating around.
I can’t speak to the sling swivels. Someday I’ll sit down and try to educate myself on Winchester swivels.
Rob
January 20, 2023
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This may be heaving the — uh, excreta into the proverbial punch bowl but has the OP actually shot the rifle yet to see if the sights in question are not a significant improvement over the presumptive factory equipment?
I found a nice postwar 67A “boy’s rifle” years ago and gave it to my son for teaching his children. It has served well but it would have been a lot better had it been equipped with an aperture sight. The factory open rear sight on my gun was not the ideal teaching tool.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
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