Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Winchester Model 52 --Gumwood stock
sp_NewTopic Add Topic
Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 74
Member Since:
June 18, 2022
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
September 14, 2022 - 4:09 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

20220913_18022217298.jpgImage Enlarger20220913_18023317300.jpgImage Enlarger20220913_18025817299.jpgImage Enlarger20220913_18212217297.jpgImage Enlarger   This  is a recent  acqusition  a nice clean  1932 barrel dated .22 Model 52. Second model with  a Gumwood  stock.  It looked  like crp when  purchased,  no scope   dark color wood,   and mottled brown reciever. – a few hours  stripping  sscraping  sanding  to remove  the  shellad ans stain . numerous coats of a water based  walnut hull stain i make .Winchester  used Walnt hulls  but boiled them in oil  . water base is handy  makes new walnut look  like older growth walnut..but  i’m satisfied  the gumwood  resembles walnut as best as it can here.. Mossberg Anachromatic scope i had, sighted in at  30  feet, while  i   look for a Fecker i think.

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 74
Member Since:
June 18, 2022
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
September 14, 2022 - 4:17 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

It’s a post  reticule   scope  my favorite. The  eye relief   makes the foucs picture is more like a peep apeture , than a wide  field  picture   Make  walnut stain by  taking  big  plastic bag of green hulls ,    putting  them in a  5 gallon spackle bucket,  add  3 gallons og boiling water   and let stew for  6 to  10 months .the longer  the  it sits  the darker  the color,   take it ou  poke holes in the bottom  and strain into  the bucket  yeild  gallon and a half or more. 

Avatar
NY
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 6354
Member Since:
November 1, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
September 14, 2022 - 5:15 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory sp_QuotePost

Ralph Fitzwater said
   This  is a recent  acqusition  a nice clean  1932 barrel dated .22 Model 52. Second model with  a Gumwood  stock. 

  

Ralph,  Gumwood was never used on 52s.  Might have been a lower grade walnut, but it wasn’t gumwood.  Glad to see you didn’t apply any kind of gloss finish, & the color looks about right.

I found out all I wanted to know about walnut hull stain when my father set me the task of de-hulling a bushel basket of fresh black walnuts from a tree on our property.

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 74
Member Since:
June 18, 2022
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
September 14, 2022 - 6:07 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

you’re wrong  ,i’ve been a woodworker  for 60 years and walnut has always been a favorite  i can tell by  the smell whn cutting.Winchester  state  it was available on special order  as well as any other grade wood. there are no “cut and dried rules ” with  somethings , it  depends on  the day or time  the blanks  were turned.,if  the  woo  shop  had   no choice   one week  until  the next batch of walnut blanks was ready  they would  substitute  Gumwood. 

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 74
Member Since:
June 18, 2022
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
September 14, 2022 - 6:10 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

gumwood  is  a green-yellow  tone  not brown– color in nature   my walnut stain  give it  the  decent walnut look.it’s gumwood  believe me.

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 74
Member Since:
June 18, 2022
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
September 14, 2022 - 6:12 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

there is  no such  thing  as “never” in volume production. many .22 were stocked in gumwood  ans a 52  is a .22

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 463
Member Since:
March 12, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
7
September 14, 2022 - 6:31 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

I have to agree with Clarence on this one. I  have owned and examined lots and lots of 52’s over the years. Never have I seen a gumwood stock on a 52. This was Winchester’s “flagship” rimfire target rifle and I cannot ever imagine them substituting a gumwood stock on these rifles. I have never seen a gumwood stock on any Winchester 22 except for the early low cost boy’s rifles.  Not that it proves anything, but I happen to have the original Winchester blueprint for the rough cut blank of the stock used on your 52 rifle. As for material, it states “Selected American Black Walnut”. 

    I’m sure if someone wanted gumwood bad enough, Winchester would have made you one on a special order basis, but I have to ask “why”? If one was installed on a production, non special order rifle, I feel it was a mistake and not due to a lack of walnut.

Steve

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 74
Member Since:
June 18, 2022
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
8
September 14, 2022 - 6:37 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

20220914_14245217309.jpgImage Enlarger20220914_14250017308.jpgImage Enlarger   These are for comparison Clarence,  on the left are  the scrapings   using a glass microscope slide20220816_20413617111.jpgImage Enlarger  from the day before, taking from under  the dark stain  from Winchester   off the stick..  on  the right  is actual walnut  from a different  stock .above   That being  a Brown-Van Choate   1871 Military trials  carbine- decent  example of wblack walnut. that too has  the water based walnut stain   under linseed oil.  Clarence  you’re “shooting  the breeze” in remarks  claiming  i don’t know  what  walnut looks like, i’ve carved it  made furniture from it  ,burned it , refinished  dozens  of walnut gunstocks    over  the years  to know  . 

Avatar
NY
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 6354
Member Since:
November 1, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
9
September 14, 2022 - 8:14 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory sp_QuotePost

Well, Ralph, you probably have a one-of-a-kind Model 52. 

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 778
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 6354
TXGunNut: 5015
Chuck: 4596
1873man: 4317
steve004: 4244
Big Larry: 2338
twobit: 2293
mrcvs: 1723
TR: 1722
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 17
Topics: 12736
Posts: 110926

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 1758
Members: 8842
Moderators: 4
Admins: 3
Navigation