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Picked up this beauty, been searching for a nice saddle ring. It was issued to the US army Signal Corp for guarding/building the Washington-Alaska Military Telegraph and Cable System in the early 1900’s. I found it in an antique shop in Anchorage. Excellent condition and a really good barrel. For sure taking this to the range. 

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Congratulations. The Climbin’ Lyman is a terrific accessory all by itself. Barrel mounted irons are beyond my ability to resolve but a good aperture sight still works for me, as long as there’s a big bead or Sourdough blade up front. 

Down here, the Texas Rangers were quick to adopt the .30/40 Krag round for its superior range. In later 19th Century photos, Texas Ranger company photos show preferences divided between 1894 and 1895 models, both rifles and carbines.

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You can sometimes find them on Ebay – both originals (occasionally) as well as reproductions.

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Since my 1895 405 is rice-powered, a nice reproduction would be fine. 

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Zaboaa said

Picked up this beauty, been searching for a nice saddle ring. It was issued to the US army Signal Corp for guarding/building the Washington-Alaska Military Telegraph and Cable System in the early 1900’s. I found it in an antique shop in Anchorage. Excellent condition and a really good barrel. For sure taking this to the range. 
  

Just for my education, were these rifles marked in a way to identify they were used by this organization?

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Morning, Chuck. I wondered that myself. 

The  early Texas Rangers bought their own weapons, typically from Petmecky’s store in downtown Austin. They were not issued by their State agency. For that reason – and because their “jewelry” was put to deadly use far more than the average law officers’ — the Rangers traded up as soon as better guns were available. They were very quick to understand the advantages of the 30 WCF over the 44WC. Frank Hamer and his fellow officers bought the first Remington 25 and 35 automatics Petmecky got in. Hamer called it his “pear burner.” 

Either right before or after Bonnie and Clyde were “captured”, Remington built Hamer a 35 with detachable extended magazine. It’s in the Ranger Museum at Waco.  

And most of them ditched the old Peacemaker for fancy Government Models, pretty early. The Rangers were nobody’s fools when it came to hardware. Still aren’t. 

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Morning, Chuck. I wondered that myself. 
The  early Texas Rangers bought their own weapons, typically from Petmecky’s store in downtown Austin. They were not issued by their State agency. For that reason – and because their “jewelry” was put to deadly use far more than the average law officers’ — the Rangers traded up as soon as better guns were available. They were very quick to understand the advantages of the 30 WCF over the 44WC. Frank Hamer and his fellow officers bought the first Remington 25 and 35 automatics Petmecky got in. Hamer called it his “pear burner.” 
Either right before or after Bonnie and Clyde were “captured”, Remington built Hamer a 35 with detachable extended magazine. It’s in the Ranger Museum at Waco.  
And most of them ditched the old Peacemaker for fancy Government Models, pretty early. The Rangers were nobody’s fools when it came to hardware. Still aren’t. 
  

Interesting rifles though.  

I have a single action that letters to Petmecky in Austin from the 1880’s.  Bonnie and Clyde were never going to be captured.  The Governor wanted them dead.  During the research on the Graves Peeler shotgun I own I found that he worked with Hamer a few time and was asked to be involved with the Bonnie and Clyde apprehension.  He declined when he found out they were to be shot on sight. 

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i Chuck said

Zaboaa said
Picked up this beauty, been searching for a nice saddle ring. It was issued to the US army Signal Corp for guarding/building the Washington-Alaska Military Telegraph and Cable System in the early 1900’s. I found it in an antique shop in Anchorage. Excellent condition and a really good barrel. For sure taking this to the range. 
  

Just for my education, were these rifles marked in a way to identify they were used by this organization?
  

Sorry should have been as more descriptive, This was from an estate sale, it has been in the family since their ancestor worked the with corp the project. I can’t 100% say they were issued. I don’t think they were ever officially issued. But I could see some of the surpluses ending up in Alaska for sure. But it does make since because from my research they were issued the Krag-Jørgensen Rifle which used the same 30-40 cartridge (please correct me if I’m wrong. 

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I believe you are correct. If memory serves, the Krag-Jorgensen rifle was occasionally chambered fot calibers other than 30/40 Krag but most were chambered for the latter and became known as the “30 Army as your carbine is marked..

I do not know this of my own knowledge but I’ve been told that, at the time of adoption by the U. S. Army the 30/40 was called the “30 Government”. In 1903 when the 30/08 was adopted,  in 1906 becoming the 30/06,  1895 rifles so chambered were marked ” 30 Government” and any further 30/40 1895 Winchester rifles were marked  “30 Army”

I believe Bert H told me that. I would suppose if an 1895 were made around the time of changeover, a chambered cast might be a good idea.

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Zebulon said
I believe you are correct. If memory serves, the Krag-Jorgensen rifle was occasionally chambered fot calibers other than 30/40 Krag but most were chambered for the latter and became known as the “30 Army as your carbine is marked..
I do not know this of my own knowledge but I’ve been told that, at the time of adoption by the U. S. Army the 30/40 was called the “30 Government”. In 1903 when the 30/08 was adopted,  in 1906 becoming the 30/06,  1895 rifles so chambered were marked ” 30 Government” and any further 30/40 1895 Winchester rifles were marked  “30 Army”
I believe Bert H told me that. I would suppose if an 1895 were made around the time of changeover, a chambered cast might be a good idea.
  

Bill,

Winchester marked them “30 U.S.” before changing it to “30 ARMY”.

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Bert, Thanks.

If I have this straight;

Winchester 1895 rifles and carbines chambered in 30/40 Krag were marked “.30 U.S.”before the Army adopted the .30 Springfield.

Afterward, those chambered in 30/40 were marked “.30 Army”.

I should write this a hundred times. 

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Zebulon said
Bert, Thanks.
If I have this straight;
Winchester 1895 rifles and carbines chambered in 30/40 Krag were marked “.30 U.S.”before the Army adopted the .30 Springfield. Afterward, 
  

Correct, the caliber marking “30 U.S.” was used on the Single Shot rifles and Model 1895s before the 30-06 GOV’T was adopted, then changed to “.30 ARMY”

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Zebulon said
Bert, Thanks.
If I have this straight;
Winchester 1895 rifles and carbines chambered in 30/40 Krag were marked “.30 U.S.”before the Army adopted the .30 Springfield. Afterward, 
  

Correct, the caliber marking “30 U.S.” was used on the Single Shot rifles and Model 1895s before the 30-06 GOV’T was adopted, then changed to “.30 ARMY”
  

Great information Gentlemen, thank you. 

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Zebulon said
Bert, Thanks.
If I have this straight;
Winchester 1895 rifles and carbines chambered in 30/40 Krag were marked “.30 U.S.”before the Army adopted the .30 Springfield. Afterward, 
  

Correct, the caliber marking “30 U.S.” was used on the Single Shot rifles and Model 1895s before the 30-06 GOV’T was adopted, then changed to “.30 ARMY”
  

What is also interesting, at least to me anyways, is that the Winchester Reloading Tools used the caliber marking “30 Gov.” or “30 Gov. S.R.” with S.R.= Short Range on the dies of the 1894 Tool. To the best of my knowledge the factory never made the tools in 30-06 or in 30-03.

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